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re: Would Gruden be a successful SEC coach?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 3:51 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 10/24/12 at 3:51 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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CapstoneGrad06
Meh, I'm more stalking the Gruden threads that you are as well. The only difference is I'm using more than three keys in the message box.
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Posted on 10/24/12 at 3:51 pm to Bassmanbruno
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He can't be any worse than Dooley.
Pretty sure no one can argue with this.
Ya, there is no way he is a downgrade for the vols. I just personally think it might take him a year MAYBE two to get adjusted to running an entire FB program as opposed to being the NFL with a personnel director, GM, etc. I think when/if he does get adjusted and figures everything out, he would make the vols a big contender comming out of the east year in and year out.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 3:53 pm to LSUnation78
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Ya, there is no way he is a downgrade for the vols. I just personally think it might take him a year MAYBE two to get adjusted to running an entire FB program as opposed to being the NFL with a personnel director, GM, etc. I think when/if he does get adjusted and figures everything out, he would make the vols a big contender comming out of the east year in and year out.
Solid. Agreed.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 3:55 pm to InVolNerable
Capstone is obviously nervous.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 3:56 pm to Wrenchruh
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Will Gruden be a successful SEC coach?
Yes.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 3:57 pm to ohiovol
He could very likely be the next Bill Callahan.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 3:58 pm to LSUnation78
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Ya, there is no way he is a downgrade for the vols. I just personally think it might take him a year MAYBE two to get adjusted to running an entire FB program as opposed to being the NFL with a personnel director, GM, etc. I think when/if he does get adjusted and figures everything out, he would make the vols a big contender comming out of the east year in and year out.
The thing about Gruden is he wants that control - that's why you would never see him resurface somewhere like the Cowboys or anyone with an owner that thinks too highly of themselves. That's likely a main part of the interest in Gruden taking a college job.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:00 pm to notsince98
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He could very likely be the next Bill Callahan.
Except he's a significantly better coach than Bill Callahan.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:02 pm to ohiovol
Check out Gruden's WIKI page. Jon Gruden
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August 17, 1963 (age 49)
Place of birth
Sandusky, Ohio
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Position(s)
Head Coach
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College
Dayton
Head coaching record
Career record
95–81–0 (Regular Season)
5–4 (Postseason)
100–85–0 (Overall)
Super Bowl wins
Super Bowl XXXVII Head Coach Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Championships won
2003 Super Bowl XXXVII
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1981
1982–1984
Muskingum College
University of Dayton
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1986–1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1992
1993–1994
1995–1997
1998–2001
2002–2008
University of Tennessee
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Southeast Missouri State
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University of the Pacific
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San Francisco 49ers
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University of Pittsburgh
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers
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Jon David Gruden (born August 17, 1963) The current head coach at the University of Tennessee. In his first year as the head coach of Tampa Bay, the Buccaneers won Super Bowl XXXVII, defeating the Raiders whom he had left at the end of the preceding season. At the time, Gruden was the youngest head coach ever to win a Super Bowl, at 39 years, 5 months and 9 days. Jon Gruden was confirmed as the new coach of The University of Tennessee, Nov. 24, 2012.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
For the ice hockey player, see John Gruden.
Jon Gruden
Personal information
Date of birth
August 17, 1963 (age 49)
Place of birth
Sandusky, Ohio
Career information
Position(s)
Head Coach
Quarterback
College
Dayton
Head coaching record
Career record
95–81–0 (Regular Season)
5–4 (Postseason)
100–85–0 (Overall)
Super Bowl wins
Super Bowl XXXVII Head Coach Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Championships won
2003 Super Bowl XXXVII
Stats
Coaching stats
Pro Football Reference
Coaching stats
DatabaseFootball
Team(s) as a player
1981
1982–1984
Muskingum College
University of Dayton
Team(s) as a coach/administrator
1986–1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1992
1993–1994
1995–1997
1998–2001
2002–2008
University of Tennessee
(graduate assistant)
Southeast Missouri State
(quarterbacks coach)
University of the Pacific
(wide receivers coach)
San Francisco 49ers
(offensive QC coach)
University of Pittsburgh
(wide receivers coach)
Green Bay Packers
(offensive assistant)
Green Bay Packers
(wide receivers coach)
Philadelphia Eagles
(offensive coordinator)
Oakland Raiders
(head coach)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(head coach)
Jon David Gruden (born August 17, 1963) The current head coach at the University of Tennessee. In his first year as the head coach of Tampa Bay, the Buccaneers won Super Bowl XXXVII, defeating the Raiders whom he had left at the end of the preceding season. At the time, Gruden was the youngest head coach ever to win a Super Bowl, at 39 years, 5 months and 9 days. Jon Gruden was confirmed as the new coach of The University of Tennessee, Nov. 24, 2012.
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:03 pm to ohiovol
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He could very likely be the next Bill Callahan.
Except he's a significantly better coach than Bill Callahan.
Because Callahan took Gruden's oakland team to the super bowl when Gruden couldn't?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:07 pm to notsince98
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Because Callahan took Gruden's oakland team to the super bowl when Gruden couldn't?
So Gruden took two teams in the same year to the Super Bowl? Even more impressive imo.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:09 pm to notsince98
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Because Callahan took Gruden's oakland team to the super bowl when Gruden couldn't?
Who beat Callahan's arse for that Super Bowl?
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:10 pm to Wrenchruh
dern merlins would make gruden his personal grind bitch
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:11 pm to Crompdaddy8
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he's a great X's and O's coach too.
Why do you say this? Because he confused Cam with questions?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:11 pm to Wrenchruh
Just curious why it matters when asking the question if he'd be a successful "SEC" coach. Why not just ask if he'd be a successful college coach? Whats the difference? I know you guys think SEC coaches are put on short leashes but the same can be said for coaches in most elite conferences across America. Think about where most of these great SEC coaches originated from? BIG 10 and BIG 12 country.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:12 pm to ohiovol
Gruden could be fine or he could be a dud. Odds are, he isn't going to be what Tennessee fans expect.
The difference between Callahan and Gruden is essentially one win. Saying Gruden beat Callahan while at tampa means gruden>callahan is an oversimplification of tFlagship-level proportions.
All you can say is Gruden did more at Tampa than Dungy and Callahan did more at Oakland than Gruden.
The difference between Callahan and Gruden is essentially one win. Saying Gruden beat Callahan while at tampa means gruden>callahan is an oversimplification of tFlagship-level proportions.
All you can say is Gruden did more at Tampa than Dungy and Callahan did more at Oakland than Gruden.
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:13 pm to Bassmanbruno
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The thing about Gruden is he wants that control - that's why you would never see him resurface somewhere like the Cowboys or anyone with an owner that thinks too highly of themselves. That's likely a main part of the interest in Gruden taking a college job.
Isn't it telling enough that no one wants Gruden in the NFL? I mean he could do well in college. No one really knows either way.
I'm biased because he fricked up my bucs.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:15 pm to roadGator
Did he inherit a good team in Oakland?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:15 pm to Tiger Authority
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His patience and tolerance for stupid young kids would prove too difficult for him to overcome.
agree with this
Posted on 10/24/12 at 4:16 pm to ohiovol
Gruden's coaching is similar to Charlie Weis. Both are great when they can coach smart veterans but have a lot of trouble teaching and developing young players. The Raiders teams Gruden won with were veteran-laden teams. They had Rich Gannon, Charlie Garner, Tim Brown, and Jerry Rice among others. Everybody knows about all the veteran players on Gruden's Super Bowl winning team in '02 with Tampa. Gruden's never developed a young QB. He's never won with a good, young team. I have a lot of doubts about his coaching style being effective in college. But it's worth the risk. The college coaching market is thin. I don't see any Brian Kellys out there right now.
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 4:37 pm
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