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Would a neck roll or cowboy collar or bigger pads have prevented both Tua head injuries?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:03 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:03 am
It's just like all of the bar fights I've ever seen. The people who are most likely to leave in an ambulance are the ones who hit the back of their heads on the ground when they fall.
Just seems primitive to allow tiny little shoulder pads and not mandate players wear something behind their helmet and neck to prevent the back of their heads from hitting the ground. Technology could put a man on the moon 50 years ago but still hasn't figured out how to prevent football players from hitting the back of their heads on the turf really hard.
Just seems primitive to allow tiny little shoulder pads and not mandate players wear something behind their helmet and neck to prevent the back of their heads from hitting the ground. Technology could put a man on the moon 50 years ago but still hasn't figured out how to prevent football players from hitting the back of their heads on the turf really hard.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 11:05 am
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:05 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
At some point your ability to walk is more important than football, i would say he is there. Not worth it.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:07 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
He hit his head on concrete with a thin layer of fake grass on it. Real turf might have made a difference.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:14 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
I mean, you could wrap someone's head in inches of the most elite padding known to man, and you're still not going to stop their brain from moving around inside their skull.
The rapid change of direction is often the issue, not necessarily the force of the impact itself.
Not to be grotesque, but think about Dale Earnhardt and his injuries, versus all of the safety equipment that he was surrounded by at the time.
The rapid change of direction is often the issue, not necessarily the force of the impact itself.
Not to be grotesque, but think about Dale Earnhardt and his injuries, versus all of the safety equipment that he was surrounded by at the time.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:15 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
To answer your question, no.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:23 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
Funny you should suggest that. The Dolphins had a QB that wore a neck roll and bigger shoulder pads. He also made the team because of his contribution on special teams where he earned the nickname "Crash". He was eventually converted to WR.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 11:24 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:26 am to Tornado Alley
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He hit his head on concrete with a thin layer of fake grass on it. Real turf might have made a difference.
I don’t think turf is the issue with concussions. Have you walked on the newer turf fields? They are imbedded with tiny rubber pellets a few inches thick and are actually pretty soft. I’d rather my head hit turf than grass. Now for knee injuries that’s a different story. Grass is superior there.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:38 am to SanAg
Suggested changes:
1. Helmet with outer padding
2. Make field wider.
1. Helmet with outer padding
2. Make field wider.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:41 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:44 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
LINKHere's my take, and I am 100% right on this. In slow motion it don't look bad, BUT go to normal speed anf Tua was slung down hard by a 340 lb man.
He had Tua wrapped up and there was absolutely NO NEED in slamming him down the way he did. Good grief, they throw flags now-a-days "roughing the passer" for merely running into the guy.
I'm sorry but that was BS. Tua suffered an injury that was needless. Go watch the original video on youtube. That D-lineman made sure to slam TUA at the end.
Oo frick it, I posted a link
He had Tua wrapped up and there was absolutely NO NEED in slamming him down the way he did. Good grief, they throw flags now-a-days "roughing the passer" for merely running into the guy.
I'm sorry but that was BS. Tua suffered an injury that was needless. Go watch the original video on youtube. That D-lineman made sure to slam TUA at the end.
Oo frick it, I posted a link
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 11:47 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:47 am to MullenBoys
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Here's my take, and I am 100% right on this. In slow motion it don't look bad, BUT go to normal speed anf Tua was slung down hard by a 340 lb man.
This is the part that seems to get lost in translation. On someone like Justin Herbert or Josh Allen, this isn’t as damaging but on Tua it certainly is. That’s mainly due to the hit that he took just a few days earlier. And he’s not the biggest guy anyways
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:50 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
Give him one of those extra big helmets like that Buffalo Bill's dB used to have.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:57 am to Tornado Alley
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He hit his head on concrete with a thin layer of fake grass on it. Real turf might have made a difference.
In my experience field turf fields are softer than grass fields. We're not talking the old school Three Rivers Stadium/Veterans Stadium astro turf here.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:09 pm to Taurus 357
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This is the part that seems to get lost in translation. On someone like Justin Herbert or Josh Allen, this isn’t as damaging but on Tua it certainly is. That’s mainly due to the hit that he took just a few days earlier. And he’s not the biggest guy anyways
I don't think so. Anyone hitting their head on the ground with that force gets knocked out. Maybe Allen or Herbert don't go down that hard because they are bigger and would not have been as easy to sling down into the ground but Tua's head hit the ground really hard. Watching it live, it was obvious he was not getting up before they zoomed in on him.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:14 pm to MullenBoys
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He had Tua wrapped up and there was absolutely NO NEED in slamming him down the way he did. Good grief, they throw flags now-a-days "roughing the passer" for merely running into the guy.
Unfortunately, there was. Because officials today don't blow the whistle when a QB is in the grasp like they used to. They give the QB every opportunity to throw the ball. Including when the QB is down, sideways, in his own end-zone, with a leg down before the elbow is down.
That lineman has to do what he did, to make the play. Blame the officials, and how the game is called.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:19 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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PeleofAnalytics
Fair point and I can see where you’re coming from with that
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:11 pm to makersmark1
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2. Make field wider.
How does that help? Less sideline hits or something?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:25 pm to SanAg
I have had a bunch of concussions, nearly died from one. (Street skates) if you bang your head or even have some serious mental trauma like death in family or something while recovering from concussion it’s worse. just jumping out of bed fast can give you a terrible headache.
It’s a brain bruise or bleed so your brain uses it’s energy to heal so you just aren’t right. They really suck. i don’t think I ever got one in football, bizarrely because I loved to hit and be hit, and the metallic taste of blood in your mouth after a hard hit makes my heart rate jump even now, but I wore a big ole neck roll which had to help.
And before you mfers say now you know what’s wrong with me, you are probably correct, I was never bad tempered until I got some of the concussions. They can definitely change you.
It’s a brain bruise or bleed so your brain uses it’s energy to heal so you just aren’t right. They really suck. i don’t think I ever got one in football, bizarrely because I loved to hit and be hit, and the metallic taste of blood in your mouth after a hard hit makes my heart rate jump even now, but I wore a big ole neck roll which had to help.
And before you mfers say now you know what’s wrong with me, you are probably correct, I was never bad tempered until I got some of the concussions. They can definitely change you.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:26 pm to paperwasp
Dale actually didnt have the mist uptodate safety equipment. Open face helmet no hons device.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 2:24 pm to lewis and herschel
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lewis and herschel
He had a Head and Neck System called HANS device. Get it right or GTFO
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