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re: Worst backstabbing coach..

Posted on 6/6/10 at 10:05 am to
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/6/10 at 10:05 am to
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The NFL is a business but it's not like working at Nissan or Wal-Mart. I'm not trying to be a dick but it's not a typical job. I don't know what went on behind closed doors but I always thought Reeves left on his own that year.


The NFL is big business. It's primary goal is to make $$$. Don't kid yourself about that.
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 10:47 am to
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Check this out, what Tubby did to Ole Piss was wrong. See, it's not hard to admit.


Boo hoo. TT did Ole Miss wrong. Well, boo hoo. That bastard. Got over it! College Football is BIG business and hard decisions have to frequently be made and most of them are not popular, especially with fans from other teams. No coach gives a shite about what some know-nothing message board critic has to say about anything. Get over yourself.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19088 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 11:16 am to
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Because he went behind Tuberville's back to replace him as HC, when Tubs was the one who hired him.


Wasn't it Auburn's administration who initiated the contact? Seriously, I don't know because I didn't pay attention to Auburn's coaching moves back then. Still don't.

And how does Saban make anyone's list? He left LSU for a shot at the NFL. Left the NFL because he realized he wasn't cut out for it.
This post was edited on 6/6/10 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 11:21 am to
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Is that what you call it? I would say he made off like a thief in the night and walked out on his team with 3 games left to play. Stop acting like what he did isn't fricked up b/c you know it was. I don't love or hate Petrino or Ark so don't start with the I'm just bashing Arky shite either.


Obviously you were there to hear every conversation between Petrino and the Falcon organization and that’s why you know so much about it, right? The ignorance and stupidity of some posters on here posting about things they know nothing about never ceases to amaze me.

The bottom line is that Blank didn’t give Petrino the latitude he was promised and Petrino was tired of all the shite going on with some of the Falcon players and wasn’t given the authority to change it. You might want to do a little research on you own to get all the facts so you won’t look so ignorant regurgitating the Falcon talking points.

This article wasn’t written by a Hog Fan but I caution you, don’t read it unless you want to become more informed as to what actually went down. Otherwise you can continue to spew ignorant information and think yourself as smart and important in doing so. This sums the situation up very nicely.

Petrino was promised Michael Vick and the support to do things his way. He got neither. A great job came open in a conference he wants to coach in. The Falcons still have Petrino's money to spend on someone else. End of story.

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Myth #8: Bobby Petrino treated the Falcons poorly - This is a saga built on incompetence and ego. The NFL might dominate that national sports landscape, but it does not do so in our Footprint. We have an entire dispatch set up to evaluate the success of the NFL in the Footprint. Of the 13 teams down here, most are failures in their ability to garner strong fan allegiance.

The Atlanta Falcons have long been the poster child for why the NFL doesn't work in the Footprint. The Bobby Petrino saga exposed all the chinks in the armor.

Let's review:

Petrino came on as coach with one objective - make Michael Vick a winning QB. Jim Mora was fired for his inability to do so. Unfortunately for the Falcons, the whole world soon found out that Michael Vick wasn't worth the effort.
Petrino was left with a horrible situation in Atlanta. The entire organization had been built around coddling Vick. With Vick gone, there was a complete leadership vacuum. The players were disrespectful of Petrino in the media and on the sidelines. Owner Arthur Blank and GM Rich McKay were silent as Petrino had to fend off criticism from the Atlanta media who was only too happy to report everything these malcontent babies (ie Alge Crumpler and DeAngelo Hall) were willing to spew.

Swampland Sports via SPF warned Blank throughout the season that this approach was a poor idea. Petrino was dealt a bad hand with Vick gone, and he was left to be savaged by the AJC on a weekly basis. Knowing his value in the college game, it was only likely that his agent might look around or at least take a call.
Like Jeffrey Chadiha of ESPN writes, Arthur Blank is to blame for this mess because his organization has no accountability. Chadiha still puts some blame on Petrino, but he points out that Blank gaveway too much latitude to Vick and to GM Rich McKay. Petrino could only fix so much with his veteran players openly rebelling at every turn.

The company line from Blank and McKay is that Petrino should have given it more time, that he let down his players, his coaching staff, and the city of Atlanta. Most of all, both claimed that they never saw this coming and that Petrino consistently lied to them about his intentions.
AJC story tells the real truth. Petrino and his agent expressed serious concerns about his tenure as the Falcons coach three weeks ago, and the Falcons (maybe not Blank, but definitely McKay) knew he was contemplating a move back to the college game. The details of Petrino's concerns about the Falcons will probably come out somewhere down the road, but the depth of the story now is that Petrino felt that he was not getting the latitude (probably on the personnel side) he was promised when he took the job.

The bottom line is that Petrino wanted to explore opportunities in college because of his growing unhappiness in dealing with the mess that Blank and McKay had allowed to happen.
At this point, Blank's ego started to get in the way. He thought, much like Wayne Huizenga last year with Saban, that coaching an NFL for a high salary was the top place for any coach. The idea that his coach would even entertain a move back to college surprised and angered him. (In fact, it took a call from Jerry Jones to wake Blank up to the fact that Petrino was interested in going back to college.)

Forever in marketing mode, Blank still had egg on his face from Vick and likely did not want to see his coach leave to go back to college. Blank knows that it would only reinforce the perception of the Falcons and the NFL as being a clear step behind college football in his home market.

When Petrino's agent couldn't get permission for his client to speak with Arkansas, Petrino was faced with a difficult choice. At that point, he made the decision to resign as the Falcons coach because that was the only way he could talk with Arkansas. Even with all the differences in accounts, both sides agree that it wouldn't have been allowed otherwise.

Knowing that Petrino's problems in Atlanta were in large part a reflection on Blank's permissive atmosphere around the team, there were probably a lot of people within the organization from players to management that wanted Petrino gone.

We find it interesting that one of the key rabblerousers, DeAngelo Hall, now wants the Falcons to give him an extension. This is truly a case of the inmates running the asylum. The players get rid of the coach and now they are trying to quickly get a big payday in the wake of his leaving.

Petrino was promised Michael Vick and the support to do things his way. He got neither. A great job came open in a conference he wants to coach in. The Falcons still have Petrino's money to spend on someone else. End of story.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19088 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 11:30 am to
And you can add this to the story. After promising Petrino would be able discuss other opportunities and take another if he job desired, Aurthur Blank said just the opposite in an interview with MNF announcers. Petrino's family heard their comments. When he walked in the door that night he was greeted by his wife and family crying and grieving because they hated Atlanta.
He was the Arkansas head coach by Friday.

This post was edited on 6/6/10 at 11:34 am
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 11:32 am to
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Everyone else knows what he did was fricked up. You're just trying to back BP up cause he's your coach. And so are the other Arky fans.
Check this out, what Tubby did to Ole Piss was wrong. See, it's not hard to admit.


Don't let the facts get in the way of your uninformed opinion.
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Myth #4: Bobby Petrino is a lying backstabber - The evidence for this is the now infamous incident in which Petrino spoke with Auburn officials regarding their head coaching job. At the time Tommy Tuberville was still under contract, Petrino was in his first season as Louisville's HC, and Petrino had just been Auburn's OC the year prior.

This has been the prime evidence for the numerous media catcalls about Petrino's history of screwing over "friends" like Tommy Tuberville. TF wants to bring a little reality to this. I hate to break it to you folks in the national media, but many of these coaches are not "friends".

Tommy Tuberville just fired his OC Al Borges who was the toast of the Plains a few years back when he had Jason Campbell, Cadillac Williams, and Ronnie Brown. Houston Nutt hired Gus Malzahn because he was pressured to do so due to Malzahn's success at the high school level, and Malzahn brought some of his top players with him. Nutt won a power struggle with Malzahn, which ended up sealing both of their fates at Arkansas. The list goes on and on.

People may not want to hear it, but coaches have to strike while the iron's hot. Petrino was a successful OC at Auburn. He left to become a successful head coach at Louisville. A big booster thought Petrino was the brains behind Tuberville's success and wanted him back. Auburn (or any SEC head job) is a better job than Louisville.

Additionally, many of the coaches in the SEC got their job under scrutiny. Quite a few people thought Phil Fuler stabbed his former boss (Johnny Majors) in the back when he initially got the Tennessee job. Nick Saban will never get Christmas cards from his former SEC school LSU or Don Shula after quitting Shula's beloved Dolphins to replace his son Mike at Alabama. Ole Miss hated it when Tuberville left their school to go to Auburn. Gator fans howled when Steve Spurrier showed up in Columbia. The list goes on and on.

More and more, it seems like getting an SEC head coaching job is like a game of "king of the hill". You have to claw and scratch to get there, and then you claw and scratch to stay there.

Yep, this isn't country club tennis were playing here folks. There are millions of dollars at stake for the head coaches and the universities that hire them.

Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 11:35 am to
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And you can add this to the story. After promising Petrino would be able discuss other opportunities and take another if he job desired, Aurthur Blank said just the opposite in an interview with MNF announcers. Petrino's family heard their comments. When he walked in the door that night he was greeted by his wife and family crying and grieving because they hated Atlanta.
He was the Arkansas head coach by Friday.


Fans from other SEC schools try to pile on Petrino for a reason. They won’t admit it but if he wasn't a great coach we would never hear a word from them. That is all anybody really needs to know why these threads continue to come up.
Posted by MANUTE BOL
THE AFTERLIFE
Member since Feb 2010
420 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 11:35 am to
Whatever makes you feel better about Petrino. I would never cheer for a team that he coached. But I guess you take what you can get in Arky
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 11:49 am to
Look, De'Angelo Hall showed up.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91653 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 11:50 am to
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How do you feel about Tuberville now?

I still like the guy. I think he'll do a Hell of a job at TT.

Maybe he'll keep their offense running great and improve their defense.

I think it's possible.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91653 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 11:52 am to
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Boo hoo. TT did Ole Miss wrong. Well, boo hoo. That bastard. Got over it!



Tha frick? I said that to prove a point jackass.

Like i said, only Arky fans find what BP did the the Falcons okay. Everyone else disagrees. That says something.
Posted by MANUTE BOL
THE AFTERLIFE
Member since Feb 2010
420 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 11:55 am to
It sure does
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 11:56 am to
It says as much about "everybody else" as it does Arkansas fans.

I'll admit that there are Arkansas fans that support Petrino b/c he's the coach here and will turn on him if he left for a better gig. There are also fans of other schools who blast Petrino for leaving the Falcons with 3 games left. Both groups are fairly ignorant.
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 11:57 am to
Apparently you can't read.

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That says something.


Actually, that says it all.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91653 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 12:00 pm to
You better believe if BP entered this season, lost Mallett, couldn't win a game, and left in the middle of the season, Arky fans would have a riot. Just like Hotlanta fans.

If you don't think so just go look at Kiffin, and he didn't even leave until after the season was over with.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91653 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 12:01 pm to
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Choctaw Hog


Run along little piggy, we're having a mature converstaion.

I dunno if your aware of that.
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 12:02 pm to
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I'll admit that there are Arkansas fans that support Petrino b/c he's the coach here and will turn on him if he left for a better gig.


I liked to watch Petrino's teams when he was at Louisville and like what he brings to Arkansas. When he leaves that I'll wish him the best unless his new team is playing against the Hogs. By that time he will have proven that the Hogs can consistently in the SEC. If he doesn’t turn Arkansas into a perennial contender then other teams won't want him.
Posted by MANUTE BOL
THE AFTERLIFE
Member since Feb 2010
420 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 12:02 pm to
I'm sure Petrino wouldnt leave Arky for another job
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 12:03 pm to
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Run along little piggy, we're having a mature converstaion.

I dunno if your aware of that.


Oh no, TTs calling names again. Mature?
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 12:04 pm to
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I'm sure Petrino wouldnt leave Arky for another job


Step up and make your prediction.
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