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re: With the Andy Cannizzo ordeal, who would you hire?
Posted on 3/1/18 at 12:00 pm to Vecchio Cane
Posted on 3/1/18 at 12:00 pm to Vecchio Cane
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Some SEC CoY Awards, a National CoY Award. SEC regular season titles, took Kentucky and MSU from worst to first.
Not too shabby
and Polk took Georgia State to the CWS. He took UGA from an 8-20 season the year before he got there to the SEC Title and Omaha his second season there. Not too shabby...
If you'll read my posts in this thread, I never once have said Cohen isn't a good coach, he just doesn't have close to the resume Polk does.
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 12:01 pm
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 12:00 pm to The Winner
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Polk has just been a liability.
Posted on 3/1/18 at 12:04 pm to The Winner
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When we had 4 CWS before LSU even had a NCAA Tournament appearance
well that's also false. LSU made the NCAAT in 1975 for the first time. State had 1 CWS appearance at that point
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they surpassed us without effort with Bertman. How did Polk with all of the advantages screw the porch? Easy. He was mediocre.
or Bertman was just better and one of the best of all time.
WHat I don't understand is why you think it's so easy and to be expected to win championships at State given no one ever has there. Polk won more and for longer than any coach State has ever had. So are you saying Miss State baseball is mediocre?
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 3/1/18 at 12:27 pm to lsufball19
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I never once have said Cohen isn't a good coach, he just doesn't have close to the resume Polk does.
just throwing some Cohen love out there. Younger MSU fans either downplay or don't have a grasp of how big Ron Polk was at MSU for 20 years.
I remember going to a basketball Midnight Madness one year and Polk came out as a celebrity free throw shooter. He was decked out in full Bulldog basketball uniform and smoking a cigar (smoking was prohibited in the Hump. Polk and Jack Cristil never cared) The crowd booed the basketball team until Polk came back out to shoot more free throws
Posted on 3/1/18 at 12:50 pm to The Winner
I think we can agree to disagree then.
Mediocre and Polk don’t go together.
You can make a case that he was a very good coach that fell just short of greatness because he failed to win a NC and we came up short in 1983-84-89-92 in Regionals that would have got us to the CWS with teams that could have possibly won it all.
But to say mediocre is just not true at all.
Mediocre and Polk don’t go together.
You can make a case that he was a very good coach that fell just short of greatness because he failed to win a NC and we came up short in 1983-84-89-92 in Regionals that would have got us to the CWS with teams that could have possibly won it all.
But to say mediocre is just not true at all.
Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:34 pm to Godawgs4
The assertion that either Tim Corbin or Jim Schlossnagle would consider the job is completely asinine. Both are at private schools with the ability to hand out more scholarships than the max 11.7 that most schools have to give out. You also have to assume that both coaches are paid handsomely by their institutions. TCU would match any offer to Schlossnagle. Facilities help but they aren't everything.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:07 pm to Peter Venkman
Agree there. Doubtful that we hire some one from an already highly rated program that can hand out scholarships like a Mardi Gras float hands out beads.
Still we will be fine. If Henderson stays on a year or two, I am fine with that. He is a good coach that has experience.
If not Cohen will find a capable coach. AC was a tremendous baseball hire, I am not faulting Cohen for not knowing that he was going to go off the rails with his personal life.
Certainly hard to predict something of that nature ahead of time.
Still we will be fine. If Henderson stays on a year or two, I am fine with that. He is a good coach that has experience.
If not Cohen will find a capable coach. AC was a tremendous baseball hire, I am not faulting Cohen for not knowing that he was going to go off the rails with his personal life.
Certainly hard to predict something of that nature ahead of time.
Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:13 pm to BobLeeDagger
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I hope we throw big money at Tim Corbin
Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:13 pm to MullenBoys
Polk was good but not great. Contrary to popular belief left field lounge existed way way before him. Cohen was on par with Polk. He cares about MsState though so IMO he is great. Cohen will scour the earth to find a coach that is better than he ever was and will open up the checkbook if need be. I'm not that concerned about it because I believe Cohen is one of the best AD's in the country
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:16 pm to yatesdog38
How much does McDonnell still love Louisville, now that Jurich is gone?
Asking for a friend
Asking for a friend
Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:33 pm to Peter Venkman
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Facilities help but they aren't everything.
yep. Look at all the Cali schools that have been great in baseball the past 30 years. Their facilities are pathetic. Texas's facilities have never been anything special. Florida has been to more CWS than anyone since 2010 and we all know where they stand in that regard. College players want to play for coaches who will get them drafted. These guys are going to be riding buses to tiny stadiums with no fans once they get to the minors, so I don't believe they care about facilities nearly as much as they care about playing for a coach that will help them get to the next level.
Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:50 pm to lsufball19
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College players want to play for coaches who will get them drafted.
I used to believe this, but Sully and Schlossnagle have made their bones by getting 1st round draft picks to campus. How? There doesn't seem to be rhyme or reason to it
Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:54 pm to The Winner
Posted on 3/1/18 at 3:12 pm to Vecchio Cane
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I used to believe this, but Sully and Schlossnagle have made their bones by getting 1st round draft picks to campus. How? There doesn't seem to be rhyme or reason to it
Yeah, but I think that's a completely different discussion. I'm referring more to the guys who may or may not have been drafted out of high school and want to improve their stock. I'd also be interested to see a yearly breakdown of all the top 3 round players out of high school that went to college and where they ultimately ended up being drafted down the road. Curious to see if it ended up being worth their time to play college baseball.
Posted on 3/1/18 at 4:13 pm to MullenBoys
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MSU will have the top college baseball stadium finished for next season. That can't hurt recruitig. Any coach knows Msu loves their baseball and has the fans.
Cohen will obviously hire a new HC as baseball is his baby. Played for Msu, was an assist coach at Msu before taking a head coaching job at Ky where he won the Sec title. He came back to Msu and won the conference title and also took us to a natty game. It's his baby. Who you think he will go after in July?
Any names out there you can think of? I think it will be someone young that is an upcoming coach. That's what Msu seems to do in these situations. Although I would not be surprised to see some big money dish out for a big name coach. Our alum would donate whatever needed. And please don't say Ron Polk because I know someone can't wait to post that lol.
I am curious as well as to who the coach will be. I've heard 2 names tossed around.
#1 The current head coach at Kentucky
#2 The current head coach at Auburn
Posted on 3/1/18 at 5:13 pm to partsman103
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I am curious as well as to who the coach will be. I've heard 2 names tossed around.
#1 The current head coach at Kentucky
#2 The current head coach at Auburn
well yeah, both coached under Cohen from 2009-2015 (Mingione through 2016 and also at Kentucky for 2 years).
But it will be interesting. I think either would take the job.
While Thompson did go to college at Birmingham Southern, he grew up in MS less than an hour from Starkville. His wife is from Birmingham, but Birmingham is about equidistant to Starkville and Auburn.
Mingione has no real ties to Kentucky. He's from New York, grew up and went to Embry-Riddle in Florida, and has coached in MS, KY, FL, and NC. Given the resources State has compared to Kentucky, I'm sure he'd jump at the job too, although Kentucky is building a brand new baseball stadium currently.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 8:36 am to lsufball19
I was up in Cape Cod last summer and saw old Ron Polk helping coach the Hyannis Harbor Hawks team.
Not a bad summer life in retirement.
Mangum and some other MSU and Ole Miss players were on team.
Not a bad summer life in retirement.
Mangum and some other MSU and Ole Miss players were on team.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 9:12 am to The Winner
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How many teams cared about Baseball in the 1970s? Let me tell you. Not many.
This is so dumb. There weren't as many teams heavily involved in college baseball then as there are now, but the ones that were invested in college baseball were WAY better than the top teams now. They really didn't have scholarship limits, and there were really no limits on when the season started and how many games they played. The typical number of games per year for these teams was 65 to 70. By comparison, Paul Gregory's last team in 1974 played 27 games. The SEC probably started their season 2 months after USC, ASU, Texas, FSU, Miami, etc. If you were a high school superstar and wanted to go to college, you went to one of these schools. All other teams were basically FCS by comparison.
Polk totally changed the culture of baseball at MSU and changed the culture of baseball in the SEC by proving to most teams that baseball could become a revenue sport.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 9:24 am to anc
Tim Corbin has a recruiting advantage over any other team in the SEC, he's not leaving.
Mingione's name is interesting and if they make a run again this year his name will be up there.
Mingione's name is interesting and if they make a run again this year his name will be up there.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 9:55 am to Adam4848
I'm pretty sure McDonnell signed a pretty lucrative deal before Jurich left so it would cost money to get him and he's built that program up by himself.
With Jurich gone, he may be attainable but no telling what kind of baggage he might have since everyone else at Louisville seems to not fall far from the tree.
With Jurich gone, he may be attainable but no telling what kind of baggage he might have since everyone else at Louisville seems to not fall far from the tree.
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