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re: Will this lead to a type of salary cap?
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:19 am to boogiewoogie1978
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:19 am to boogiewoogie1978
While a noble position… there are always exceptions. The investigation committee are not robots.
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Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:21 am to AggieHank86
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How would such a "cap" be governed or enforced?
X number of NIL money allowed per school. Sign contracts and NIL BEFORE they enroll. If player has any deal greater than NIL Cap then the school can't sign them.
This post was edited on 5/21/22 at 9:24 am
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:22 am to AGGIES
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While a noble position… there are always exceptions
Harsh penalties reduce infractions bigly
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:25 am to boogiewoogie1978
That’s fine. But Then you will still have the other money outside of NIL.
Arkansas fans can recall what it was like from the Old SWC days. The Rules are just ways for the primary rule breakers to punish the others who dare do the same.
Arkansas fans can recall what it was like from the Old SWC days. The Rules are just ways for the primary rule breakers to punish the others who dare do the same.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:25 am to boogiewoogie1978
Difference would be made up under the table - as it always has. That is what Saban wants. To go back to the "old" way where he had control over everything
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:26 am to boogiewoogie1978
quote:That is your proposed rule, not an enforceable system. Again, give prior court rulings, how do you ENFORCE such a rule? If the NCAA were to even TRY, the courts will strike it down again.
X number of NIL money allowed per school. Sign contracts and NIL BEFORE they enroll. If player has any deal greater than NIL Cap then the school can't sign them.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:30 am to AggieHank86
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If the NCAA were to even
There's your problem. There is no more NCAA. It's not semi pro and they have to adjust.
You are really fighting hard to keep buying your players. You will get regulated. Sorry for your loss.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:33 am to ColoradoAg
This is the problem with you, EVERY SINGLE ATM fan that I've seen on here recently, and most fans of every program. You only want what benefits the team you pull for. There is no principle or ethics. Many of you hate the Yankees and Dodgers for having the big $, but when it's your team that may have deep pockets , you revel in it. When it's the other programs cheating, you lead the way with the torches and molotov cocktails. But, when yours is being called out (by everybody), you play the same game of denial and the tired old "you're just jealous and angry" stuff. Rinse, repeat. For pretty much every fanbase.
There are no principles or ethics anymore.
And go ahead and queue the "but it's legal" stuff, because by the NCAA rules, it's not. Whether a couple of the talking heads or journalists realize it (most do) or not.
There are no principles or ethics anymore.
And go ahead and queue the "but it's legal" stuff, because by the NCAA rules, it's not. Whether a couple of the talking heads or journalists realize it (most do) or not.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:37 am to Bama3714
You are describing Saban. Otherwise there would be No Dodge Chargers, no other rule breaking, etc. No - it wasn’t legal.
And he has the gall to say Bama does it the right way while A&M doesn’t. NIL is legal and now Bama doesn’t have the secret money advantage. Get off that hypocritical high horse. Saban wants what benefits him only.
And he has the gall to say Bama does it the right way while A&M doesn’t. NIL is legal and now Bama doesn’t have the secret money advantage. Get off that hypocritical high horse. Saban wants what benefits him only.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:38 am to Bama3714
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And go ahead and queue the "but it's legal" stuff, because by the NCAA rules, it's not. Whether a couple of the talking heads or journalists realize it (most do) or not.
It’s an easy loop hole to exploit and A&M is.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:57 am to boogiewoogie1978
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That's the only way to try and control this.
Too late for that.
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revenue sharing pot
The Whole point was so that players can negotiate their own deals. What's the point if a top recruit/player strikes a big deal for himself if he has to turn around and share it with players who can't get a deal?
I didn't want to see this shite in the first place because I knew it was going to change college football. Now we just have to wait and see how it works itself out between the NIL money and the transfer portal. Buckle up, because this is just getting started.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 10:01 am to boogiewoogie1978
See that’s the whole problem to begin with. Certain schools are protected while others were not. The whole system was/is corrupt.
A lot of other schools are going to benefit from the new system. And Bama is going to be just fine as well. Saban freaked out too soon and his recruiting is going to be hurt more from what he stated than anything pertaining to NIL.
A lot of other schools are going to benefit from the new system. And Bama is going to be just fine as well. Saban freaked out too soon and his recruiting is going to be hurt more from what he stated than anything pertaining to NIL.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 10:05 am to boogiewoogie1978
Leave the Jimbo-Saban snit completely out of the equation, forget that it happened. That’s fueling so much of the caca at present.
The mic drop reality is that there is no way, in this or any known solar system, that any attempt to institute a salary cap will survive judicial scrutiny, and those are the people who are in charge of this situation, not sports people.
And no, it’s not a good thing, but I’ll repeat what I said in another thread, we’re so far through the looking glass with this Alice ain’t never finding her way home.
The mic drop reality is that there is no way, in this or any known solar system, that any attempt to institute a salary cap will survive judicial scrutiny, and those are the people who are in charge of this situation, not sports people.
And no, it’s not a good thing, but I’ll repeat what I said in another thread, we’re so far through the looking glass with this Alice ain’t never finding her way home.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 10:58 am to AGGIES
So you're comparing hearsay booster involvement with institution-wide, open, brazen, pay-for-play? So you're saying Saban only talks about the things that would hurt Bama (AKA... only complains to try to change things to benefit him)? Yet, he's been about the most outspoken against the floodgates of the transfer portal (which has benefitted Bama more than anyone)? That (and a few other issues) kind of blows that argument right out of the water.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:02 am to TizzyT4theUofA
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It’s an easy loop hole to exploit and A&M is.
If by loophole, you mean "still clearly against the NCAA rules, but might be extremely difficult (if not impossible) to prosecute via Federal law", you're right. Otherwise, it's not really a loophole. The issue is that the NCAA "rules" conflict a bit with the new laws of fhe land.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 12:30 pm to Bama3714
Saban didn’t have much to say about boosters getting him players under the table
And he had a LOT to say when he was bragging about Bryce Young’s NIL deal. Didn’t seem concerned about it at all.
And he had a LOT to say when he was bragging about Bryce Young’s NIL deal. Didn’t seem concerned about it at all.
This post was edited on 5/21/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 5/21/22 at 12:36 pm to AggieHank86
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How? This all got started because the courts have already said that the NCAA cannot regulate a kid's ability to get paid for his NIL. How would such a "cap" be governed or enforced?
This isn't about current players. This is about promising prospects a certain amount of money to sign. Thats where the blurred line was crossed. It is going to be very interesting to see what the NCAA does. NIL will not stay as is.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 2:42 pm to Bama3714
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If by loophole, you mean "still clearly against the NCAA rules, but might be extremely difficult (if not impossible) to prosecute via Federal law", you're right. Otherwise, it's not really a loophole. The issue is that the NCAA "rules" conflict a bit with the new laws of fhe land.
By loophole, I mean a player can be told what they will get. They can’t guarantee it but they can say what a person at their position would be able to take in. All you have to do is read between the lines.
This post was edited on 5/21/22 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 5/21/22 at 2:48 pm to TouchdownTony
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This isn't about current players. This is about promising prospects a certain amount of money to sign. Thats where the blurred line was crossed. It is going to be very interesting to see what the NCAA does. NIL will not stay as is.
But you are forgetting the 800-pound gorilla here: What if the NCAA does something and someone takes it to court and their action is ruled unconstitutional and nullified?
If you remember, it was a court decision … by a supposedly conservative Supreme Court … that launched this mess. Not anyone connected to athletics or concerned about the future of the sport or, especially, with the slightest care about what fans think.
This post was edited on 5/21/22 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 5/21/22 at 2:49 pm to InkStainedWretch
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If you remember, it was a court decision … by a supposedly conservative Supreme Court
What do you mean by that?
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