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re: Will Lyles sought 80K for Patrick Peterson
Posted on 3/31/11 at 8:56 am to WelcomeToDeathValley
Posted on 3/31/11 at 8:56 am to WelcomeToDeathValley
This is how it works, you fleece the schools that are desperate to return to the big time - like Miss St and Texas A&M not that Miss St was ever there.
You play the game and try and get money from those guys knowing you have fall back options that are better like LSU, Auburn, Fla, Bama, etc.
A&M or Miss St do not bite so I struck out, now I go to where the grass is greener and play on a better team that can showcase me better to get to the NFL. That's what appears is going on right now. The only way I'm not going to LSU or Auburn where I have a better chance of winning more is to extort money from a school trying to get to that echelon to see if they bite - MSU and A&M didn't.
You play the game and try and get money from those guys knowing you have fall back options that are better like LSU, Auburn, Fla, Bama, etc.
A&M or Miss St do not bite so I struck out, now I go to where the grass is greener and play on a better team that can showcase me better to get to the NFL. That's what appears is going on right now. The only way I'm not going to LSU or Auburn where I have a better chance of winning more is to extort money from a school trying to get to that echelon to see if they bite - MSU and A&M didn't.
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:01 am to nicholastiger
I'm not reading all this thread.
Is LSU cheating or not?
Is LSU cheating or not?
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:07 am to roadGator
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I'm not reading all this thread. Is LSU cheating or not?
Cam Newton all over.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:08 am to Born to be a Tiger
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I wonder how many violations AU has committed but we will never know because your compliance office is run by more cheaters that are "All In." I guess it is hard for cheaters to police cheaters. AU can't count on the BOT to put a stop to it. So who do you think is cheating more than AU and how do you do the accounting? Do you agree that different compliance offices have different degrees of blindness. So while you are on your way to rob a bank you call the cops on your neighbor for selling lemonade without a permit. Now that is the worst kind of hypocrisy.
Your post is spot on.
Only in Lee County can the most influential man on campus be indicted for a host of illegal activities and the entire fanbase can't see that fact as indicative of the program he runs (AU athletics). How do they define executive leadership over there?
Auburn University has allowed their school to be controlled and administered by the most crooked men in the state - all because those men have donated millions to AU.
How could they know who to trust when everyone in power over there is a crook?
Just think about this -
- P4P was acknowledged by a former coach (Bowden)
- P4P solicitation was admitted by Cecil Newton
- P4P was admitted by 4 FOUR former players
- A former HC that put AU on probation for P4P is back on campus
- Lowder is still at AU- under federal investigation
- A huge booster/financer McGregor is under indictment by the Fed's
The list could go on and on - but you get the picture of the landscape on the Plains.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:11 am to roadGator
quote:Depends if you want facts and evidence or the standard TD speculation and assumption. If the former, no one knows for sure. If the latter, then yes, they paid at least $80,000 for PP7.
Is LSU cheating or not?
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:13 am to auburntiger77
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Also: McClover implicated LSU, so was he telling the truth about Auburn, but lying about LSU? If he is credible, he is credible? Again which is it?
Your right auburntiger77, we will gladly admit an anonymous person gave a player at one of our camps who never played a down at LSU $500 bucks if you will admit that it's also true 4 of your players were getting paid, one directly from a coach. Sounds about right to me. I can live with that.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:15 am to nicholastiger
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This is how it works, you fleece the schools that are desperate to return to the big time - like Miss St and Texas A&M not that Miss St was ever there.
You play the game and try and get money from those guys knowing you have fall back options that are better like LSU, Auburn, Fla, Bama, etc.
A&M or Miss St do not bite so I struck out, now I go to where the grass is greener and play on a better team that can showcase me better to get to the NFL. That's what appears is going on right now. The only way I'm not going to LSU or Auburn where I have a better chance of winning more is to extort money from a school trying to get to that echelon to see if they bite - MSU and A&M didn't.
As an Auburn fan, I agree with you... LSU fans did not think that when it was CAM, but now many have seen the light... BAMMERS now want BOTH of us on probation... LSU fans need to unite with Auburn against BAMMER... Many LSU fans teamed up with BAMMER, trust me bammers are NOT your friend...
(For the record, LSU is my second favorite team, loving visiting Baton Rouge)
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:19 am to NEWOTiger
quote:HaHa, you wish... Where is anyone in PP's family admitting to asking for money? Where are Lyles comments on the matter? Where is Texas A&M's report to the Big 12 or the NCAA?
Cam Newton all over.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:20 am to WDE24
I will go on record (having been a big critic of AU and Cam) in saying that I don't really see any difference in the allegation against PP7 and LSU than the Auburn deal that has been alleged in paying for Cam. If anything, the LSU deal may sound worse.
I will also go on record in saying that I have a bad feeling that LSUs house of cards is about to crumble due to recruiting impropriety. Let's face it, Miles is not that bright and I have always been amazed that he has been able to recruit like he has in view of his communication skills...or lack thereof. With that being said, perhaps he is just good at cheating.
Moreover, if LSU has been paying players, then I hope they get the appropriate punishment. I also hope that all schools involved in these types of schemes get what is coming to them.
I think the next two to three years are going to be landscape altering for college football, especially in the SEC. I would not be surprised at all to see Auburn, LSU, UT and maybe one or two other schools find themselves on major probation...perhaps as bad as USC...maybe worse.
It is what it is and there appears to be a dark cloud on the horizon, whether it is just an optical illusion or a Class 5 Hurricane remains to be seen for several big time schools, including LSU.
I will also go on record in saying that I have a bad feeling that LSUs house of cards is about to crumble due to recruiting impropriety. Let's face it, Miles is not that bright and I have always been amazed that he has been able to recruit like he has in view of his communication skills...or lack thereof. With that being said, perhaps he is just good at cheating.
Moreover, if LSU has been paying players, then I hope they get the appropriate punishment. I also hope that all schools involved in these types of schemes get what is coming to them.
I think the next two to three years are going to be landscape altering for college football, especially in the SEC. I would not be surprised at all to see Auburn, LSU, UT and maybe one or two other schools find themselves on major probation...perhaps as bad as USC...maybe worse.
It is what it is and there appears to be a dark cloud on the horizon, whether it is just an optical illusion or a Class 5 Hurricane remains to be seen for several big time schools, including LSU.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:20 am to auburntiger77
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As an Auburn fan, I agree with you... LSU fans did not think that when it was CAM, but now many have seen the light... BAMMERS now want BOTH of us on probation... LSU fans need to unite with Auburn against BAMMER... Many LSU fans teamed up with BAMMER, trust me bammers are NOT your friend...
(For the record, LSU is my second favorite team, loving visiting Baton Rouge)
You are such a fricking moron. Take your stupid arse back to AE and spread this shite to the Fambly.
This post was edited on 3/31/11 at 9:22 am
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:21 am to RT1941
i'm not delusional to think these things aren't happening at all universities. However, with that said, if p.p. was paid 80k then the rules at the time are the same rules that applied to the cam situation. therefore, if p.p. says he didn't know. no foul. it's a mute point. time to move on.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:21 am to DeltaDoc
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I think the next two to three years are going to be landscape altering for college football, especially in the SEC. I would not be surprised at all to see Auburn, LSU, UT and maybe one or two other schools find themselves on major probation...perhaps as bad as USC...maybe worse.
Too much money on the table for that to happen.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:23 am to DeltaDoc
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DeltaDoc
Damn Doc, what made you jump off that cliff so fast?
It's not like PP7's daddy is a Bishop that whored out his son's services or anything........
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:26 am to parkjas2001
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Too much money on the table for that to happen.
True - There's way too much money to be made in the SEC for them to alter things too drastically. They'll close up some loopholes to weather the current shite-storm and move on from there, IMO.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:27 am to RT1941
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Where is Texas A&M's report to the Big 12 or the NCAA?
Texas A&M University and the SID's office have stated in the article they have no knowledge of this, hence no report.
It's one coach that's not even here anymore talking about this.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:28 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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We know it's a fact that Cam's father asked for money for his son.
You don't know jack shite for a "fact" about anything in that case, brah.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:31 am to dos crystal
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i'm not delusional to think these things aren't happening at all universities. However, with that said, if p.p. was paid 80k then the rules at the time are the same rules that applied to the cam situation. therefore, if p.p. says he didn't know. no foul. it's a mute point. time to move on.
Good point, even if the whole scenario is totally true, the blueprint has been laid for every player moving forward to always have a perfectly good escape clause "I didn't know", end of story.
This post was edited on 3/31/11 at 9:32 am
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:31 am to dos crystal
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i'm not delusional to think these things aren't happening at all universities. However, with that said, if p.p. was paid 80k then the rules at the time are the same rules that applied to the cam situation. therefore, if p.p. says he didn't know. no foul. it's a mute point. time to move on.
Actually, you can never move on... The BAMMERs will not allow it... We still have daily post about CAM... So from now on, it should be CAM and Patrick... Plus the NCAA is still looking into the entire Lyles issue.... So who knows...
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:32 am to beatbammer
I have a really good feeling that PP7 and the 80k are why Corch was yapping about cheating. That and other examples of it.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 9:33 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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It will frustrate and anger them more if we just point and laugh
Good plan. AU fans have been sending LSU fans into flopping fits worthy of a beached fish doing the same thing for the past few months.
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