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re: Will anyone in the east challenge UGA?

Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:00 am to
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:00 am to
You're right both schools have won multiple SEC titles, a National Title, and had a Heisman trophy winner too in that time
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
4065 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:15 am to
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do think we are getting our shite together a lot quicker and on a much higher level than anybody is recognizing.
You said the same shite last year. South Carolina's going to get bullied by Georgia the same as last season. UF has a chance. Mizzou might. A&M will probably be good by then as well. South Carolina? Probably not.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
22010 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:18 am to
There it is, hiding behind that 2010 shield.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60657 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:28 am to
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You're right both schools have won multiple SEC titles, a National Title, and had a Heisman trophy winner too in that time



So, you aren't going to answer the simple question?

And...only one has averaged 5 losses a year in the last 5 years. The other one has been t the playoffs and played for a National Championship. Y'all laugh at 1980....and rightly so. but 2010 is getting smaller in that rearview mirror, too.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 7:31 am
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5970 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:48 am to
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Alabama and A&M say hi on SC’s schedule.


I think he meant that “their West opponents of A&M and Auburn are a harder draw than anyone else” that was in contention to challenge for the East title.

SCARs schedule is BRUTAL, but not relevant to this conversation, like A&M in the West. Both are spoilers at best this year.
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
12521 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:50 am to
You bet, see you November 2nd.
Posted by IrishHammer
Member since Aug 2019
117 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:54 am to
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Under Richt, UGA never swept the East once.




Because Richt was competing against much better Florida, Tennessee, and South Carolina teams than Kirby is.

Kirby is 4-5 against the West. He clearly benefits from being in the East.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60657 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:55 am to
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Kirby is 4-5 against the West. He clearly benefits from being in the East.


You mean...even though the west was 4-8 against the east last year if you remove Alabama from the equation?

Not sure that is a benefit.
Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:03 am to
Vandy in game 1
Posted by IrishHammer
Member since Aug 2019
117 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:12 am to
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You mean...even though the west was 4-8 against the east last year if you remove Alabama from the equation?


Does South Carolina beating Arkansas really tell us anything? On the flip side does Alabama beating Vanderbilt tell us anything? Some of these games are totally insignificant and meaningless as far as saying who is 'better'. We can look and see that in 9 of the last 10 SEC Championship games where the best East team has been playing the best West team the West has won. To me that matters much more than Missouri beating Arkansas which really doesn't tell us much.

Also, Mark Richt in his first 3 years was 6-3 vs the West with only one lone blowout loss where Kirby is 4-5 with 3 blowout losses.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26537 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:14 am to
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Also, Mark Richt in his first 3 years was 6-3 vs the West

I know this may blow up your brain, but the West was dogshit then outside of LSU. For example, in 2002 UGA played 6-6 Arkansas in the SEC Championship.
Posted by IrishHammer
Member since Aug 2019
117 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:17 am to
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For example, in 2002 UGA played 6-6 Arkansas in the SEC Championship.



Arkansas was 9-3 coming into that game not 6-6. Including a win over LSU.

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but the West was dogshit then outside of LSU


Kinda like how the last two seasons the East was dogshit outside of Georgia?
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 10:18 am
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11127 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:18 am to
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Does UF have any chance?

Cackylacky?


If Fromm goes down? Yes. Otherwise. not really.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38276 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:18 am to
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Richt was competing against much better Florida, Tennessee, and South Carolina teams than Kirby is.


Not in 2002 or 2003 or 2004.....
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38276 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:21 am to
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Keep it up.

Continue the arrogant drivel.



Continuing with this unsubstantial drivel makes it look like the point went over your head.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 10:22 am
Posted by IrishHammer
Member since Aug 2019
117 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:24 am to
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Not in 2002 or 2003 or 2004.....




Tennessee was 8-5, 10-3, 10-3 in those years. When has Tennessee been this good under Kirby?

Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11127 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:24 am to
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Point of fact, much like when Mizzou and SC won the East, the east has been down the past two years.

SC has been rebuilding.

Florida has been recovering.

Mizzou has been rebuilding.

Tennessee is still rebuilding.

Kentucky had a couple of good years but they were really your only challenge these past two seasons. Think about that.

Beginning this year the East will prove a much tougher slate for your Dawgs so you might as well quit jizzing the last two seasons all over yourself now. Kirby hasn't proven anything yet. He's had it easy then past two seasons comparatively speaking to what Richt had to deal with in terms of competition from the East. THAT'S a true point of fact.


The East has been down since 2012. Not just the past 2 years. But unlike those other years, it does have one team that stacks up with the best. No one has dominated the East in that time period the way UGA has the past two seasons. 12-0 and only two games within 2 scores.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26181 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:26 am to
Yes.

Well that was easy.

Wait. You want me to prove my statement?

Well. Alrighty.

Florida matches up well with Georgia in overall talent. If they win the annual match up they are very much in the driver's seat. Missouri has a steak and blowjob schedule this year. If they beat Georgia, which is not unbelievable, then they are in the driver's seat in the East.

Let us say that Georgia loses to Auburn. Then they lose to another front running team in the SEC East. You have, presto changeo, a Georgia team that needs a lot of help to make the SEC championship.

I still lean towards Georgia being the East representative but they could easily get knocked out of the SEC title game and still have a very good team.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5606 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:30 am to
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Because Richt was competing against much better Florida, Tennessee, and South Carolina teams than Kirby is.


That was true about 60% of the time, but there were more than a couple of years when all of those schools were down and UGA was much more talented. We always found a way to drop a game or two anyway.

Also, this UGA team is more talented that any of those Florida, UT, or SCe teams.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60657 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:33 am to
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Does South Carolina beating Arkansas really tell us anything?

Nice narrative, but if a decent east team plays and beats a bad west team, then a bad east team must have played against a decent west team, right?

And, yes, it does tell us something. It tells us that the west was 4-8 last year against the east. I don't get it. For years the narrative was the east was crap because the west regularly beat up on us. That's fair. but now that it is the other way around you want to break down matchups?

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We can look and see that in 9 of the last 10 SEC Championship games where the best East team has been playing the best West team the West has won.
And that would tell us that Alabama is the best team in the SEC. Period. It doesn't make the rest of the west better.

I mean, if you want to go that route then Tennessee beating Auburn is proof positive that the east is much, much better.

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Also, Mark Richt in his first 3 years was 6-3 vs the West with only one lone blowout loss where Kirby is 4-5 with 3 blowout losses.
So, now you want to go back 17 years to prove something about today?
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