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re: Why was Saban more involved with the LSU coaching search than Bama's?

Posted on 2/8/26 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 4:11 pm to
The complete lack of awareness by the Rantards is hilarious. Nick telling Lane to take the LSU job was his nice way of saying, "Lane, you will NEVER get the Bama job". Crowing about being Lane's consolation prize is high comedy.
Posted by Doctapeppa
Houston
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 4:32 pm to
Kiffin asked him for his advice and he gave it.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 5:00 pm to
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Well we do know one thing, he told Byrne not to hire Kiffin! If he thinks so much of Kiffin, why wouldn’t he want him at Bama?

Because he didn’t want his legacy potentially overshadowed by LK.
No threat of that from deBore.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
5106 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 5:10 pm to
I can tell you with 100% certainty that Saban talked to the LSU AD for at least 20 mins right before this year's Bama/LSU game. Still that was only 20 mins. How long do think he talked To Greg Byrne? Probably a little longer, dont you think?
Posted by BobRossMobBoss
Member since Feb 2026
100 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 5:32 pm to
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Why was Saban more involved with the LSU coaching search than Bama's?


Because he loves LSU and wishes he had never left because his heart has melted a little each day since he made that decision to leave LSU for Alabama.

He has said many times that in his spirit life, he was born in Baton Rouge and was baptized in that 'Ole Man River they call the Mississippi.

Among friends on the golf course, he always wears purple and yellow as a tribute to the greatest team in the greatest town in the greatest state in the United States.

It's said that after each hole, he will do a coonass jig dance and shout out "ayeeeayee" before moving to the next hole to show his appreciation for the culture that he feels turned him into the man that he is today.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 6:48 pm to
Well Saban and Verge are friends. Lane looks up to Saban as a mentor. It makes sense that both would call him.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
22491 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 6:53 pm to
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Because he didn’t want his legacy potentially overshadowed by LK. No threat of that from deBore.


You realize Saban coached at LSU too don’t you?

If he doesn’t want his legacy overshadowed then it makes more sense why he advocated for Kiffin to get the LSU job.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
22491 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 7:22 pm to
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Heck, even the Saban's have said they could've had the same success at LSU.


I don’t believe they did. And the actual results prove they were wrong if they did.

Nick Saban’s 5 Years At LSU:

48-16; 75%; 1 national championship

Nick Saban’s First 5 Years at Alabama:

55-12; 82%; 2 national championships

Nick Saban had 3 or more losses 4 of his 5 seasons at LSU; or 80% of the time.

Nick Saban had 3 or more losses 2 of his 17 seasons at Alabama; or 12% of the time.

We don’t have to wonder where he would have done better, his record shows us. He was significantly more successful at Alabama than he was at LSU.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:05 pm to
This thread really got under some peoples skin
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
69286 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:08 pm to
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I don’t believe they did. 


Well they did.

quote:

And the actual results prove they were wrong if they did.


Not really.

quote:

Nick Saban’s 5 Years At LSU:

48-16; 75%; 1 national championship

Nick Saban’s First 5 Years at Alabama:

55-12; 82%; 2 national championships

Nick Saban had 3 or more losses 4 of his 5 seasons at LSU; or 80% of the time.

Nick Saban had 3 or more losses 2 of his 17 seasons at Alabama; or 12% of the time.

We don’t have to wonder where he would have done better, his record shows us. He was significantly more successful at Alabama than he was at LSU.


Okay, Rainman.

Let's just ignore the fact that Saban was a relative unknown in the SEC when he came to LSU and had to basically build a program from the ground up, which obviously was not the case at Alabama.

Are you really this obtuse?
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
84169 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:18 pm to
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he came to LSU and had to basically build a program from the ground up, which obviously was not the case at Alabama.



He didn't rebuild the Alabama program from the ground up?

Are you fricking serious?

Alabama had zero NFL draft picks in the 2008 draft class.

Saban recruited the core players for the 2009 and 2011 (remember that one?) national title teams in the Class of 2008.

That's the fricking definition of having to build from scratch.
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 8:21 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
69286 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:23 pm to
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He didn't rebuild the Alabama program from the ground up?

Are you fricking serious? 


No.

He did not have to convince Alabama boosters to support the program at a much higher level than they were doing, he didn't have to convince them to invest in facilities like an IPF or new football facility, he didn't have to build recruiting inroads, and he didn't have to convince recruits and players to buy into his vision as to what the program could be.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
84169 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:27 pm to
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He did not have to convince Alabama boosters to support the program at a much higher level than they were doing, he didn't have to convince them to invest in facilities like an IPF or new football facility, he didn't have to build recruiting inroads, and he didn't have to convince recruits and players to buy into his vision as to what the program could be.


What?

He absolutely did those things.

Gerry DiNardo's record at LSU before Saban took over was 33-24-1.

Mike Shula's on-field record at Alabama before Saban took over was 25-24.

But he had to rebuild LSU and not Alabama, right?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
69286 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

What? 

He absolutely did those things.

Gerry DiNardo's record at LSU before Saban took over was 33-24-1.

Mike Shula's on-field record at Alabama before Saban took over was 25-24.

But he had to rebuild LSU and not Alabama, right? 


Like you guys constantly like to point out, Alabama had tons of success prior to Saban. LSU didn't.

Saban has talked at times about having to convince LSU to even give him the resources where he already had the resources at Alabama.

There's also the fact that he was fairly unknown when he came to LSU. When he was hired at Alabama, he was an NFL head coach that had already won a national championship at an SEC program. Big difference.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
84169 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

Like you guys constantly like to point out, Alabama had tons of success prior to Saban. LSU didn't.



We did.

We were also wandering in the wilderness of mediocrity before Saban was hired.

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

quote:

Saban has talked at times about having to convince LSU to even give him the resources where he already had the resources at Alabama.


The facilities at Alabama were absolute shite when Saban took over. He had to beg for the money back in 2008 to build a new facility.

quote:

There's also the fact that he was fairly unknown when he came to LSU. When he was hired at Alabama, he was an NFL head coach that had already won a national championship at an SEC program. Big difference.


Like you guys like to constantly point out, he had a losing record in the NFL.

No one could've imagined he would win 6 national championships during his time at Alabama.

No one.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
69286 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:42 pm to
I'm just going off the comments that Saban himself has made multiple times over the years.

If you have more insight into the situation than him, then perhaps you should educate him.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
84169 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:46 pm to
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I'm just going off the comments that Saban himself has made multiple times over the years.


Link?

ETA: I know you won't actually produce any links because you can't, but at least you'll get to reply with another limp wristed retort.
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 8:48 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
69286 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:58 pm to
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Link?

ETA: I know you won't actually produce any links because you can't, but at least you'll get to reply with another limp wristed retort.

There is no singular link because many of these statements have been made through various interviews and press conferences.

ChatGPT does a pretty good job of breaking it down though:

quote:

At LSU: Saban inherited a program that had great potential but was in a state of disarray when he first arrived in 2000. It was a program that needed significant rebuilding. Saban had to lay the foundation for success in a tough SEC, and he did that by recruiting hard, instilling discipline, and developing players who could compete at the highest level.

quote:

One of the biggest differences that Saban has pointed out is the level of resources available at Alabama compared to LSU. Alabama has a vast network of alumni, financial resources, and a fanbase that demands success, which Saban used to his advantage. While LSU also had strong recruiting grounds and was in a competitive conference, Alabama’s tradition and financial backing allowed Saban to attract top-tier talent more easily, especially after he started winning big.

quote:

Saban has also mentioned that when he was at LSU, recruiting was a constant challenge in the deep SEC and the surrounding states. At Alabama, though, the program was already a recognizable brand, making it easier to get recruits to come to Tuscaloosa.
Posted by Publicschoolkid
Member since Nov 2020
464 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:42 pm to
He got paid.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
35119 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 6:43 am to
quote:

Why was Saban more involved with the LSU coaching search than Bama's?


Because at Alabama he was in the position of an advisory role. He was involved, but it was expected.

He just decided to give Lane advice outside of a professional scope. Probably figured Lane needed a couple of years at a mid tier SEC program before coming to Bama.
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