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re: Why isn't the SEC Championship an elimination game for the CFP?
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:58 am to icheerforgeorgia
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:58 am to icheerforgeorgia
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Lol the irony of an alabama fan asking this. Alabama is buoyed in the rankings all the time for eye test and brand recognition - how could this possibly happen to anyone else?!
To answer your question: Georgia has beaten everyone since week 1 by ~30 points and barely breaking a sweat.
Bama looked like it was shitting razorblades trying to beat a bad Florida, lsu, auburn, etc.
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This was all probably a waste of time
This is why you need to be shaking in you hushpuppies!
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:59 am to magildachunks
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but why should Georgia get a pass if they lose?
Even though I don't think they should (Being your Conference Champ should be a requirement imo), This is a topic that would be better served being brought up by absolutely any other fanbase besides Gumps.
At least UGA would have won their division.
Something two of Saban's National Championship Bama teams couldn't even accomplish.
And promptly proved the committee was right and very smart!
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:00 am to djsdawg
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2018 UGA is the only one that should have.
And 2007 UGA should have played for the NC.
And nobody wanted a piece of 200...whatever...UGA at the end of the year. That team was firing on all cylinders and playing better than anyone in the nation at the time.
The Citrus Bowl win proved that.
This is the same tired line repeated by Dawg fans year after year.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 1:04 am
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:02 am to Hang10
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And promptly proved the committee was right and very smart!
Not the point though.
A Bama fan asking why a team that doesn't win it's conference championship should get the benefit of the doubt, or a mulligan if you will...
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 1:03 am
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:00 am to magildachunks
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And 2007 UGA should have played for the NC.
I disagree on this one, but LSU did get lucky not having to face this team.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:05 am to Goombaw
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Alabama Fan
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mulligan
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:58 am to Goombaw
So you’re getting a lot of shite simply for being an Alabama fan, but I actually think this is a quality post, and the points you raise are discussion-worthy (and always have been).
If this scenario involved flipping the names Georgia and Alabama, you’d have a lot more serious replies extolling that Alabama shouldn’t get in, I think.
And if Georgia wins tomorrow, I’ll root for them to win out and represent the conference well. But I don’t know the best answer to your question either.
If this scenario involved flipping the names Georgia and Alabama, you’d have a lot more serious replies extolling that Alabama shouldn’t get in, I think.
And if Georgia wins tomorrow, I’ll root for them to win out and represent the conference well. But I don’t know the best answer to your question either.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 4:21 am to paperwasp
I won't screw the leghumpers and the 1980 they rode in on
Posted on 12/3/21 at 4:28 am to paperwasp
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So you’re getting a lot of shite simply for being an Alabama fan, but I actually think this is a quality post, and the points you raise are discussion-worthy (and always have been).
He's getting a lot of shite not because he doesn't have a good point. Most of us agree with his point.
He's getting a lot of shite because he's a Gump making an argument that Bama fans have been extolling is not a valid argument since 2011.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:00 am to Goombaw
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Who deserves to be in? Georgia has gained a ton of credit, not just for winning, but how they've won - in dominating fashion. Does that still matter if they lose Saturday?
So are saying Bama didn't deserve to be there in '17?
They obviously didn't even make the SECCG game.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:08 am to navy
That's not even the question posed. But since you brought it up, that year the championship was not a playoff game as only one participant had a shot at the title. Or think of it this way, LSU had to win to get a shot - Bama did not.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:40 am to Goombaw
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I think the argument can be made that the loser Saturday doesn't deserve to be in the playoff over other 1-loss or undefeated conference champs.
1. Is there an undefeated conference champion? Who is that? Cincinnati?
2. Which undefeated conference champion would be left out if Georgia loses and goes to the CFP?
quote:So, in your world a one loss team with a tougher schedule should be left out for a one loss team with a weaker schedule?
Georgia's SOS (5) is actually a spot behind Michigan, and only 12 spots ahead of Okie State. The Pokes, Wolverines, and Bearcats all played at least 1 quality opponent in November, while Georgia was beating up on 4-6 Charleston Southern and 3-9 Georgia Tech. In fact, the Dawgs haven't played a team with a winning record since the middle of October.
quote:Same reason Alabama did in 2017, I geuss?
IF (a huuuge if) Alabama were to do the unthinkable and upset the mighty Dawgs, while Oklahoma State beats Baylor, Cincy beats Houston, and Michigan handles Iowa, why should UGA get a mulligan?
Crap. I could go on and on tearing apart your "thoughts", but I fully understand that this is a troll thread. because if you are serious, then you need to have your posting privileges revoked.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:47 am to Goombaw
It should be, imo. Of course, I still don't think Alabama should have made the championship game in 2011, regardless of whether they were the best team available.
There's a system in place and it should be honored. For example, you could make a good argument that Texas deserved the '77 title, Arkansas or Michigan State in '65, but "you gotta fall after you lose your bowl game", so they weren't even considered. This allowed teams with worse records, or resumes, to win the title, but that's how the system has always worked and you don't just change it for Alabama or Notre Dame.
There's a system in place and it should be honored. For example, you could make a good argument that Texas deserved the '77 title, Arkansas or Michigan State in '65, but "you gotta fall after you lose your bowl game", so they weren't even considered. This allowed teams with worse records, or resumes, to win the title, but that's how the system has always worked and you don't just change it for Alabama or Notre Dame.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 5:49 am
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:54 am to Goombaw
2011 Alabama says hello.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:55 am to Goombaw
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I'm talking about putting the 4 most deserving teams in the CFP.
That’s not the purpose of the playoff or the mission the committee is charged to accomplish. They are supposed to pick the 4 best teams.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 6:19 am to Goombaw
No conference championship should be an elimination game IF the teams are clearly top four teams AND have a representative win-loss record.
A 2-loss bama, ie. the tide loses to Georgia, is likely out of the mix if Cincinnati beats Houston… If Oklahoma State and Cincinnati both lose, I could see justification for 2-loss bama being in the four team playoff.
There’s a lot in play this weekend… the wolverines, cowboys, bearcats and tide must win to ensure they’re invited…
A 2-loss bama, ie. the tide loses to Georgia, is likely out of the mix if Cincinnati beats Houston… If Oklahoma State and Cincinnati both lose, I could see justification for 2-loss bama being in the four team playoff.
There’s a lot in play this weekend… the wolverines, cowboys, bearcats and tide must win to ensure they’re invited…
Posted on 12/3/21 at 6:22 am to Goombaw
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To be clear, I think both teams in Atlanta this weekend are good enough to win the whole thing,
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I'm not really talking about talent or the eye test - I'm talking about putting the 4 most deserving teams in the CFP.
Bama lost to an 8-4 AM and barely beat 6-6 Auburn
Posted on 12/3/21 at 6:24 am to Goombaw
As a Bama fan I have to say this is a dumb post. It's because this game isn't a playoff game so it shouldn't be an elimination game. Georgia is one of the four best teams. And even if they lose they certainly shouldn't drop out of the top 4. Heck you could make a case for keeping them number 1.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 6:34 am to MizzouTrue
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Has any team lost the SECCG and still made the playoffs?
No. Just teams that haven’t played won their division, much less conference
*cough*alabama and tOSU*cough*
Eta
I forgot about Notre Dame. Man that was some bullshite, but then again, they only had one loss and it was in the conference championship game.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 6:36 am
Posted on 12/3/21 at 6:35 am to Goombaw
It is for yall.
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