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re: Why is Nick unable to succeed in the NFL?

Posted on 11/17/19 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7566 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 2:54 pm to
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Requires you to be around trash like Johnny Manziel and Myles Garrett


And Rolando McClain. Oh wait.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51470 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 2:58 pm to
Barry had a team gifted to him.
Posted by 24nights
2018 College FB Pick'em Co Champion
Member since Apr 2012
4796 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:01 pm to
What in the hell? You guys have been blowing the gumps all season and now you act like a scorned lover. LSU broke the gumps and most of the Aggie dick riders.
What a time to be alive.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58173 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:03 pm to
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Why is Nick unable to succeed in the NFL?


It’s much harder screaming at grown men who make a ton of money and trying to motivate them by fear.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10513 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:08 pm to
Never too late.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:08 pm to
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He quit the Dolphins because their medical staff made him take Culpepper over Brees.



It was his final decision.
He quit because:
A. You can’t cherry pick your roster in the NFL.
B. You can’t bully grown men, making as much as you , into believing in the “process”.
C. It’s a level playing field in the NFL.

Pete Carroll didn’t have a problem making the transition.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9189 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:09 pm to
Because he can't be a dick to grown men.
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
4347 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:12 pm to
Nfl players won’t put up with his jackass personality. Plus recruiting is what made him great in college. He doesn’t have that angle in nfl.
Posted by Sponge
Member since Nov 2018
3779 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:15 pm to
Because his players walked all over him

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He got a kick out of occasionally switching a Saban-called play in the defensive huddle, something his coach had begun to notice. Saban’s face contorted into rage when he heard Thomas yelling. He stopped practice and ran over to Thomas and told him to “shut the frick up.” Thomas told Saban to “shut the frick up” right back, then yelled, “I’m a grown-arse man!”


LINK
Posted by jvilardo
5024 e. Brooks Town BR, La.
Member since Jan 2012
3282 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:16 pm to
It's all about total control.
Posted by HammerJackFlash
Member since Sep 2018
833 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:24 pm to
By the time a player becomes a veteran in the NFL, they know as much as the coaching staff. The NFL requires coaches to be able to work together with the players as opposed to dictating everything. Plus, the coach doesn’t control the roster/depth chart 100%. Saban could have probably adapted and been successful, but he was at freaking Miami. Dan Marino couldn’t even win a SB there.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11400 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:28 pm to
Lol - thanks for the pressing topic. Y’all still miss him don’t you.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:41 pm to
This was my favorite anecdote:
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In “organized team activities” (OTAs) that spring, Saban had the entire team line up for sprints. He blew his whistle, and everyone took off ... except for Keith Traylor, a nose tackle who weighed at least 350 pounds. According to some of his teammates, Traylor—then a 14-year NFL veteran and winner of three Super Bowls—had a clause in his contract that relieved him of conditioning duties. So, instead of sprinting with the rest of the team, Traylor set off on a leisurely jog. When he realized that Saban was eyeing him, Traylor began to taunt him, yelling, “Hey, Nick! Hey, Nick!” Traylor knew, as the rest of his teammates did, that Saban hated being called “Nick” by his players. He wanted them to address him as “Coach” or “Coach Saban,” just as his college players always had.

Traylor kept yelling, “Hey, Nick!” Finally, Saban snapped and told him to shut the hell up and run.

Traylor responded: “Who the frick do you think you’re talking to?” and ambled over to the sideline and stood and watched as his teammates ran their sprints.

You know he had to be pissing off the veterans to make a 14 year veteran go out of his way to troll the head coach.

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He quit the Dolphins because their medical staff made him take Culpepper over Brees.

But you already knew that so keep trolling.


quote:

Except it's actually the truth.

From the Miami Herald
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Saban, ever the competitor, wanted to get out front of the Saints so he and his wife flew to Alabama to meet Brees and his wife for dinner. Saban fell in love with Brees. The coach was certain Brees was his guy.

The two agreed that Brees, who had already scheduled a visit in New Orleans first, would come to South Florida afterward.

quote:

Everything seemed cool but the next day weirded Brees out. He was reportedly subjected to a six-hour physical that centered, of course, around his surgically repaired shoulder. To this day, I am not certain whether or not the Dolphins made Brees an offer. A good source close to Brees insisted Miami did, although it was a lowball offer.


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Months later, when Brees was lighting up NFL secondaries and Culpepper was benched, I requested a private interview with Saban to ask, basically, what was going through his cotton-pickin' mind when he picked Culpepper over Brees.

This was the answer he gave me:

''Let me just say this,'' he said in addressing the subject directly for the first time, ``It was a medical decision. I don't think medicine, personnel or any of that is an exact science. I think we have good, professional people in that area. I think they made the best judgment they could make at the time relative to the circumstances. No one could predict the future. It is what it is right now.''

Saban explained that he preferred Brees primarily because getting him didn't include giving up a draft pick. But he said the medical staff's recommendation was not only that Culpepper would have a better chance of recovering in time for the 2006 season than Brees but also that Culpepper would have a smaller chance of sustaining a reinjury.



NICK SABAN made the choice. The medical staff just advised him about what they thought about the chances of re-injury. Saban had the owner in his pocket and could do what he wants.

Stop acting like it wasn't Saban's call to not pay Drew Brees.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21065 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:51 pm to
Personality
Posted by HammerJackFlash
Member since Sep 2018
833 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:52 pm to
This sort of explains the coach player relationship in the NFL and validates the veteran trolling Saban.

These guys know just as much about football as the coaches.


Start at around 2 minutes
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10364 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

Requires you to be around trash like Johnny Manziel and Myles Garrett



Myles was simply trying to return Rudolph his helmet.
Posted by Legion of Doom
Old Metry
Member since Jan 2018
4982 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:31 pm to
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Y’all still miss him


OP is an Aggie fan. Saban coached A&M? Who knew?
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
6364 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:52 pm to
The number 1 reason Saban failed in the NFL.

Because in the NFL all the players are paid.

In college most players are not given big money in recruiting. Some are.
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3202 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:52 pm to
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He quit the Dolphins because their medical staff made him take Culpepper over Brees.



That is pure horse shite. Lol. Saban had total control for the Dolphins. Total Control. That’s why he took the job. The ONLY way he was taking an NFL job was if he got total & complete control. That’s why he didn’t take the Bears job one year earlier right after we won the National Title. The Bears had restrictions.

The Truth: Brees favored the Dolphins over the Saints. Shawn Payton told Brees he was his guy all the way. Even though Brees couldn’t even throw a football 15 yards, at the time, Payton & the Saints went all In. Guaranteed him $10 million a year for 5 years. Saban & the Dolphins wouldn’t go all in like the Saints would. Brees picked the Saints and the rest is history.
Posted by HammerJackFlash
Member since Sep 2018
833 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:15 pm to
How the frick do you get that from my post?

quote:

Y’all still miss him don’t you.



He could have been successful if he would have adapted. Being at Miami certainly didn’t help that cause. Point being his wheelhouse isn’t working with players as peers, and is why he failed in the NFL and is extremely successful at the college level.

Not gonna lie, having les miles as a coach was fun for me - as frustrating as it was at times.

Saban created the blueprint for creating a dynasty, and I believe Dabo and O are following his lead.
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