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re: Why has USCe remained so irrelevant for so long?

Posted on 9/6/18 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by molardog1
Member since Dec 2017
2098 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 6:35 pm to
But all this tradition and past records are meaningless. What is more important is the recent history. Only losers live in the past. We are in the best years of Carolina Gamecock football, and the future has never been brighter...or has it? After leading South Carolina to their most successful two-year run in the programs history, many Cocks believed Lou Holtz had brought his winning ways to Columbia -he failed like twenty-one coaches who preceded him. Lou Holtz retired after the 2004 season, with a 33-37 record. South Carolina failed to make the postseason for the 8th time in the past 10 seasons. Holtz tenure was just another in a long line of recent Gamecock failures. South Carolina's record since 1995: 49-64-1, which is 82nd among 117 D-1A teams over the same period. Since Joining the SEC: 66-81-1, which is 74th among D-1A teams over the same period. Since 1990: 75-92-3, which is 71st among D-1A teams over the same span. Carolina has finished in the Top 15 once in the past 16 seasons, and been to three bowl games in that span. This is South Carolina football.



After consecutive bowl appearances in 2000 and 2001, South Carolina was coming off of their most successful two year run in the programs history. The Gamecocks 17 wins during that period was the most by any South Carolina team over a two-year span. Only 17 other current D-1A schools that have fielded a team 15 or more seasons have failed to win 18 or more games in consecutive seasons. Carolina was going to keep the momentum and 2002 was the season that the Cocks would breakthrough and finally surpass Georgia, Tennessee, and Florida. They would finally get over ?the hump? to capture the Eastern Division Championship. You had two Heisman candidates in the same backfield, Pinnock and Jenkins. You mixed up all the ingredients to produce another sub .500 record, and another 0-for against the Big 3 from the East, and another loss to in-state rival Clemson. The Carolina Heisman candidate at RB finished with less than 50 yards per game rushing, and the Heisman candidate at QB finished the season at DB. But, wait there is always next year.



2003 would be the year that Holtz previous recruiting seasons would begin to pay dividends. The team no longer had any cancers and was again united. Team unity, young stars, and maturity at QB would get South Carolina back to a New Years Day Bowl game. Your most hated rival would be down and a Carolina victory at home on the seasons last game would likely lead to the departure of the rival coaching staff. The best High School Running Back to ever step on a field made a pledge in February to attend South Carolina, and bring glory to Columbia. That running back ended the season by leading the team with 58 yards per game rushing in his first season in Columbia -3 Freshmen Running Backs in the conference were better. Your QB who had matured, and finally had a grasp of the offense? He finished with the lowest completion percentage in the conference, as well as the fewest yards. Again, it was a sub .500 record overall, 2-6 in the conference, another 0-for against the Big 3 from the East. And the season finale that would send your in-state rival back to the drawing board and end the coaching career of Tommy Bowden instead ended in a 46-point home loss.



Seventeen of Twenty-two starters returned for 2004, and with it came high expectations. Returning was your entire offensive backfield. You brought in a new defensive coordinator who was going to implement a new scheme that would be a better fit for your young defensive talent. On offense, Lou took over play calling duties and was supposed take Carolina to the top by grinding it out on the ground. And when your Senior QB would be presented with the situation when he must throw, Coach Holtz said he was going to ?shock the conference. The season began with a blowout win over Vanderbilt, and a 16-point lead midway through the second quarter over highly touted Georgia. But, then the reality of what the true description of South Carolina football is occurred, South Carolina wouldn't score again until the South Florida game. When the season ended, this group of Gamecocks etched their name next to failures of the past. Once again South Carolina failed to reach the post season. Once again, they ended conference play without a winning record. For the third season in a row they went 0-4 against the big three from the East and in state rival Clemson. The lopsided defeats in the 2004 contests against these four teams brought the total point differential margin to 191 points that Carolina has been outscored by in those four ?rivalry? games over the last three seasons. South Carolina has allowed 23 or more points in nine of those games, and scored 23 or more only once. The Quarterback who was going to "shock the conference" didn't make it to the third game of the season. Gamecock players gave Coach Holtz an early retirement gift during the final contest of the season in a 22-point loss to Clemson by delaying the game nearly ten minutes midway through the fourth quarter. The reason for the delay was frustrated South Carolina players started an ugly on-field altercation. The actions led to a post season ban by the University. A team that had positioned itself to accomplish what only 11 teams before them had accomplished, instead took their place in Gamecock history as the 100th team that failed to reach post season. Coach Holtz called the scene, his "biggest disappointment." For many it was just another chapter of "This is South Carolina football."


Posted by molardog1
Member since Dec 2017
2098 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 6:36 pm to
On November 23, 2004, South Carolina named Steve Spurrier as the schools Head Football Coach. Spurrier brings to South Carolina a .777 college winning percentage. His resume includes six SEC titles, one ACC title, and one national championship. Coach Spurrier holds the mark with the all-time highest winning percentage in SEC play. Spurrier will also bring to Columbia the highest expectations in the schools history. Spurrier finished in the Final AP Top 15 twelve consecutive seasons at Florida, so that is what we should expect at South Carolina. Spurrier had a career record of 11-1 against Georgia while at the Gator helm, so that is what we should expect at South Carolina. Gamecock players have greeted Coach Spurrier's arrival in emblematic Carolina fashion with an abundance of team rules violations and felony arrests. In January, six players were charged after a total of $18,000 worth of computer and video equipment and framed photographs were taken from South Carolina's stadium in late November. The incident resulted in Offensive Lineman Woody Telfort being charged with a felony count of grand larceny, and numerous other charges against players. On March 1st leading rusher Demetris Summers was dismissed from the team. A day later, Tackle Kevin Mainord was arrested for stealing televisions from dorm rooms. Defensive End Moe Thompson was also arrested on similar charges six days later. On April 16th, two more Gamecock players, Josh Johnson and Ty Erving, were arrested and charged with simple marijuana possession. Less than two weeks later, WR David Smith pled guilty to third degree burglary. In late May, Linebacker Dustin Lindsey was charged with DUI. On June 23rd, Cory Boyd was dismissed from the team. In all, twelve players have been arrested in the 2005 calendar year. It's been a typical Gamecock off season. But, all will be suppressed in less than two months, when 111 years of South Carolina's losing tradition will be changed. The man who will single handedly change the program has arrived in Columbia sounds similar to what we were told before Holtz' arrival. When Spurrier accepted the job to lead the Gamecocks, he commented, "they really haven't ever done much here." No kidding Steve, welcome to South Carolina football.
Posted by molardog1
Member since Dec 2017
2098 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 6:37 pm to
And that folks should tell you all you need to know about those cocks from the ACC.

Dawgs roll Saturday.
Posted by 251Tiger
Member since Aug 2018
536 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 6:38 pm to
I have a feeling South Carolina beats Georgia Saturday.
Posted by molardog1
Member since Dec 2017
2098 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 6:39 pm to
Nope that is just a diabeetus flare up you feel.
Posted by IStillMissDanny
S TX
Member since Aug 2016
2151 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

South Carolina has won 11 games three times this decade.


Three more times than the previous 12 decades.

Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
23719 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 6:40 pm to
Wow spurrier really broke Georgia fans
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
10678 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 6:40 pm to
Won’t be that close...double digits like Vegas thinks
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
6053 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 6:40 pm to
You have some serious copy and paste skills molardog
Posted by molardog1
Member since Dec 2017
2098 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 6:44 pm to
Thanks Bro....the above treatise is a thing of beauty I could only wish to lay claim to
Posted by jcljag
Mobile
Member since Dec 2007
733 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 6:58 pm to
Ray Goff. Jim Donnan. Mark Richt.
Posted by jackmanusc
Columbia, SC
Member since Apr 2012
3948 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:37 pm to
It’s like that speech Galadriel gave Frodo about why she couldn’t take the one ring. Our fan base would be the most obnoxious of all time. Combining the worst aspects of Bama LSU and Georgia. It’s for your own protection.
Posted by CockyTime
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3296 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:39 pm to
Molardog Jimmie Status:

[X] RUSTLED

[ ] NOT RUSTLED
This post was edited on 9/6/18 at 9:55 pm
Posted by CockyTime
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3296 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:41 pm to
quote:


We have almost as many conference titles as South Carolina has wins against UGA


And yet we have the same amount of national titles since joining the conference.
Posted by HoldenOversoul
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2012
518 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

We have almost as many conference titles as South Carolina has wins against UGA


And yet we have the same amount of national titles since joining the conference.


It's because big mean Saban and Urban wouldn't let them have one. Stop picking on them, they're just like Bama dammit!
Posted by kbrake37
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2016
3094 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:57 pm to
It's true. We don't have much of a winning history.

So why are you UGA posters in such an uproar over a meaningless game with an irrelevant team? We aren't even a rival right?

I smell fear up there in Athens.

And yes bravo...you made it to the playoffs. News flash...you lost the game. You have nothing to brag about accept for your title back in the 1970s or whenever it was . my parents were babies so forgive me for not knowing
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

It's because big mean Saban and Urban wouldn't let them have one. Stop picking on them, they're just like Bama dammit


We are closer on the spectrum to Bama than we are as a program to South Carolina.

It's the truth.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 12:09 am to
quote:

fans show up win or lose



Most have the IQ of a turnip. So...........
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
100000 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 12:10 am to
quote:

We are closer on the spectrum to Bama

Posted by Mr.Sinister
South Carolina
Member since Dec 2012
4956 posts
Posted on 9/7/18 at 1:16 am to
Holy wall of copy and paste text batman!!!


BTW...

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