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re: Why do the higher ups at Auburn think Gus is such a great coach?

Posted on 2/12/19 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by howieshoodlums
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 5:47 pm to
if he was 1-3 against AU
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if he was 1-3 against AU


You can say if all you want to we both Know Kirby isn't going anywhere for a long time.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 6:09 pm to
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You can say if all you want to we both Know Kirby isn't going anywhere for a long time.


Nobody fears Kirby, they just know he has had a clear path the way the SECE has been the last 5 years. I think people understand that window of opportunity is closing fast with the resurgence of UF. I think even UGA fans know that next year might be their only real opportunity to break the streak. As a fan of another school, I feel UF has the best chance for a team from the East to break thru. Mainly because Mullen can find a QB.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 6:59 pm to
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Something that wouldn't have happened if they played in the West.



I would not agree with this. We were winning the SEC no matter what division we played in 2017.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:06 pm to
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If UGA is the yardstick we have certainly measured up


25 losses in 5 years is far from measuring up.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:15 pm to
You lost to Bama and Auburn that year. That would have placed you 3rd in the West after the regular season.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:41 pm to
We lost to a desperate and more healthy bama with a prepped Tua as a backup, which is not what we would have faced in a regular season matchup. Au faced a very different Bama team that UGA did.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:55 pm to
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We lost to a desperate and more healthy bama with a prepped Tua as a backup, which is not what we would have faced in a regular season matchup. Au faced a very different Bama team that UGA did.


bullshite, you lost to Bama in the second round to a backup QB who really hadn't been in a pressure situation. UGA choked that game and considering it was essentially a home game, it make me feel comfortable saying they would have finished 3rd in the West. Plus the record proves it. But if you had beaten Bama in the regular season, you still would have not played in the SECG. Of course if you want rewrite history, you are King of the World in 2017.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 7:57 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:10 pm to
What is BS?

1. Bama LB's that got hurt in game #1 had 6 extra weeks to get up to full speed, which is a lot of prep time.
2. Saban had 6 extra weeks to prepare Tua to play, which is a lot of prep time.
3. Saban was more desperate to play Tua in the post season, as proven by him pulling Hurts.

Be thankful you didnt have to face that Bama.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:18 pm to
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What is BS? 1. Bama LB's that got hurt in game #1 had 6 extra weeks to get up to full speed, which is a lot of prep time. 2. Saban had 6 extra weeks to prepare Tua to play, which is a lot of prep time. 3. Saban was more desperate to play Tua in the post season, as proven by him pulling Hurts. Be thankful you didnt have to face that Bama.


1. Bama played #1 Clemson the week before the CG.
2. Hurts had won 21 of 23 Games and Saban trusted him. This is the same Hurts that made UGA look foolish this year.
3. UGA was playing a home game in Atlanta, just like in the SECCG.
4. UGA would have not been in the playoffs since even if they beat Bama, would have been bumped by Auburn. UGA doesn't get in, mainly because they didn't pass the eye test after the beatdown in JHS.


So most of what you wrote is BS. Keep dreaming.
Posted by Fab4Freddy
Member since Nov 2011
1733 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:22 pm to
Somebody's gotta beat bama....

Most of y'all sure don't contribute. Try it out sometime and help the cause.

K, thanks
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:46 pm to
I only listed 3 points, so you need to formulate 3 responses, each specific to the point I made, so try again.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 8:54 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:00 pm to
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So most of what you wrote is BS.


You failed to dispute any of them.

Here they are again:

1. Bama LB's that got hurt in game #1 had 6 extra weeks to get up to full speed, which is a lot of prep time.

2. Saban had 6 extra weeks to prepare Tua to play, which is a lot of prep time.

3. Saban was more desperate to play Tua in the post season, as proven by him pulling Hurts.

Try again.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:03 pm to
1. BS, every team has injuries. Look at how many 5 stars they had on the field. Should have been enough to beat AUs 3 stars.
2. BS, Saban wasn’t trying to prep Tua to play in the Playoffs. He trusted Hurts, he still trusts Hurts.
3. Saban played Tua because Hurts wasn’t getting any production in the first half and he needed a spark. Tua threw three balls into triple coverage, if UGA DBs hadn’t shite all over themselves the outcome would have been different. Just another choke job by UGA.

It might have been best to have had UGA in the West from their fans standpoint. It would have reduced their frustration playing in the Chick Bowl. They might have even beaten UCF at home again.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:30 pm to
1. Not every team has a ton of injuries to one specific position. Bama was in better shape at LB 6 weeks after the AU game.

2. Bama fans said he was prepping him to be ready to go for the playoffs, and he had 6 extra weeks of prep after the AU game.

3. So why didnt Saban pull Hurts vs AU, or in any other game? Because he wasnt forced into desperation. Because it wasnt a championship game.

Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8589 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:40 pm to
Championships won are the same, does anything else matter?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:43 pm to
Yes. Other things matter.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

1. Not every team has a ton of injuries to one specific position. Bama was in better shape at LB 6 weeks after the AU game.



The LBs were not the ones getting beat against the better teams, it was the secondary and the DL (especially against AU).

quote:

2. Bama fans said he was prepping him to be ready to go for the playoffs, and he had 6 extra weeks of prep after the AU game.


shite, you could find Bama fans who were saying the Tua was going to play and win the starting position the first game of the year. Like I said, Tua had a tendency to force the ball under pressure, he got away with it in the UGA Game (due to UGA shitting all over themselves), but Saban doesn't like turnovers. You saw it some this year.

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3. So why didnt Saban pull Hurts vs AU, or in any other game? Because he wasnt forced into desperation. Because it wasnt a championship game.



Because Hurts wasn't the problem against Auburn. Hurts ran for over 80 yards and threw for 112 and a TD. The problem was Bama was whipped on both side along the LOS. Because of that, Saban wasn't going to put Tua in that situation for the above mentioned reasons. But if it help you feel better about 37 straight years, we will let you go with it.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:00 pm to
That 2017 SECCG arse whooping sure riles you up. You sink so far to try to explain that away, just to convince yourself that AU was really the best.

1. The LBs play a role in assisting both DB's and DL.
2. The Bama fans werent wrong about the playoff prep. Per the article, "The Tide revealed an entirely separate plan, one that was clearly thought out, practiced for..."

“I felt like that we’ve had this in our mind that, if we were struggling offensively, that we would give Tua an opportunity, even in the last game,” Saban said. “Jalen was sick a couple days before the Clemson game, and the players really respond well to [Tua].”

This was not the case in the regular season. He was talking about the 2 playoff games.

3. Hurts wasnt playing well enough to win vs AU or UGA. He was only pulled once. Only in the post season, after 6 extra weeks of prep.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:45 pm to
UGA trying to rationalize their choking at their best chance to change the yearly cycle of failure is amusing. But it is mostly just sad. Like I said , in 2017 you wouldn’t have played in the SECCG , much less the playoff if you played in the West. You can what if Bama beat Auburn and UGA beat Bama because Tua would have played instead of Hurts. History showed neither happened and your excuses are FOS and creative at best. Keep the dream alive.
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 9:37 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 2/13/19 at 12:42 am to
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Like I said , in 2017 you wouldn’t have played in the SECCG , much less the playoff if you played in the West.


Or maybe we would have. Impossible to know. The whole schedule set up of the SEC would differ if UGA played in the west, and a different setup could easily result in UGA or Bama winning the west as both were proven to be better than AU over the course of the season. Anyways, nice to see you give up on arguing the strong points made, just as AU usually does vs UGA.
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