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re: Why do sidewalk fans tend tend to be more rabid and fanatical than alums?
Posted on 2/13/15 at 7:58 pm to Agforlife
Posted on 2/13/15 at 7:58 pm to Agforlife
When I was growing up my aunt was a secretary for the anthropologist professor at LSU. During summer break I would spend a month with her. I spent a lot of time roaming the campus at LSU. So I never attended as a student but a big part of my childhood memories are tied to LSU. Does this make me a sidewalk fan. No
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Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:16 pm to randomways
I think you are right across the board- we have had the conversation and that the OP was vague at first (which led quickly to assumptions).
One question your post raised: is the Vandy ego a reason for reduced participation on these forums in your estimation? Or is it just the numbers game?
Oh and
One question your post raised: is the Vandy ego a reason for reduced participation on these forums in your estimation? Or is it just the numbers game?
Oh and
Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:17 pm to randomways
quote:That was poorly written. But, I think I agree with some of it.
I'm pretty sure we've actually had this particular discussion before. At least I think it was with you...it was with a reasonable debater, so that means there's a roughly 1/3 chance here on the Rant that it was you (for the rest of you, if you're reading this, rest assured you are definitely one of the other two reasonable ones, just so you don't worry.) I don't disagree that alumni/ae have more personally invested in a school, and thus have a certain vested interest in the reputation of the program and the fanbase. But I read the OP as being categorical -- he seems to being saying that this is an innate characteristic of sidewalk fans, and the tone implies disapprobation toward the category itself. I interpreted it as such since I've certainly known students and alumni/ae who hold precisely the view you're discarding -- sidewalk fans are somehow "lesser" regardless of their behavior. That sort of attitude even more prevalent at places like Vanderbilt, where the "prestige" tends to over-inflate egos (granted, the attitude tends more toward looking down on graduates of other SEC schools than sports fans, but it's stil relatively analogous as far as the sense of entitlement goes.) Since the OP has now declared (or implied) that he wasn't being categorical, I suppose this debate has reached a natural conclusion. In my defense, he didn't really add any mitigating conditional factor in his original post.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:22 pm to randomways
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it was with a reasonable debater, so that means there's a roughly 1/3 chance here on the Rant that it was you (for the rest of you, if you're reading this, rest assured you are definitely one of the other two reasonable ones, just so you don't worry.
How dare you call me reasonable
Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:31 pm to WhitewaterDawg
quote:Because they are less educated. Now dont get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with having a small decal on your vehicle, but if you wear team gear everywhere you go and insist on saying roll tide to everyone Auburn fan you run into, youre probably a lower income, blue collar person who values 18-21 year old's performance on a football field more than successes in life.
Why do sidewalk fans tend tend to be more rabid and fanatical than alums?
Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:40 pm to ChexMix
quote:This less educated bullshite is getting goofy. Do you want me to point out the numerous grammar/punctuation errors in one simple paragraph? (Oh, BTW - I am one of those "less educated" sidewalk fans).
Because they are less educated. Now dont get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with having a small decal on your vehicle, but if you wear team gear everywhere you go and insist on saying roll tide to everyone Auburn fan you run into, youre probably a lower income, blue collar person who values 18-21 year old's performance on a football field more than successes in life.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 10:54 pm to ChexMix
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there is nothing wrong with having a small decal on your vehicle
Posted on 2/14/15 at 1:13 am to Swoopin
quote:Alumnus dude. It's Alumnus.
Usually because an alumni has inherent pride in their school that doesn't peak/fall on a self-worth level with the success of the football team. But personally, I feel like I keep it pretty reasonable because I am an alumni of a good school as well.
Alumni is plural, as in more than one.......
Posted on 2/14/15 at 7:50 am to WhitewaterDawg
Because actual graduated alums are somewhat educated....So, that is about 11% of the posters on this site
Posted on 2/14/15 at 8:32 am to TMRebel
quote:this, as an LSU fan that attended another school. I agree 100%. I pull for LSU and love them, am fairly subdued in my fandom, but do kinda envy those that had the experiences of attending the school.
Well, one group has memories of walking through campus to go to class, having specific friend groups that they hung out with as a result of being on campus, and nostalgia that results from these interactions that they had while they were a student. They still love the sports teams, but its more than that.
I would still pull for my alma mater if they played LSU for the natty
Posted on 2/14/15 at 8:36 am to WhitewaterDawg
Because people who actually went to college are more likely to realize that their college loyalty is an accident of heredity and geography and that others who love their school (even that one you hate) are real people operating on the same kinds of passions that you are.
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Posted on 2/14/15 at 8:41 am to ChexMix
Your lack of education is gushing in that post. The definition of ignorance.
Posted on 2/14/15 at 8:53 am to WhitewaterDawg
I'll put it to you like this:
In Austin, other than game days between the two universities, I haven't been accosted for wearing A&M gear ONCE. Not even one time.
In San Antonio, I was constantly cussed and jawed-at by t-shirt Horn fans.
Once city is full of UT-W *grads*, the other is full of poor t-shirt Mexican wannabes.
In Austin, other than game days between the two universities, I haven't been accosted for wearing A&M gear ONCE. Not even one time.
In San Antonio, I was constantly cussed and jawed-at by t-shirt Horn fans.
Once city is full of UT-W *grads*, the other is full of poor t-shirt Mexican wannabes.
Posted on 2/14/15 at 8:57 am to WhitewaterDawg
Real fans have been through the ups and downs that all teams experience. They know that there will be both good and bad times.
Posted on 2/14/15 at 9:02 am to Cooter Davenport
Yup I can confirm that. Hell here in Austin I have gotten positive comments about JFF's play from UT grads.
Posted on 2/14/15 at 11:23 am to heartbreakTiger
A&M is one of the few schools where this is not true. It's part of the reason why sidewalk fans are scared away. Aggies are already diehard, live and die fanatics who are immensely proud of their school. Outsiders don't really get it, which is why we have way less fans who didn't go to school there or have no immediate connection to the school through family members who went there.
Posted on 2/14/15 at 11:30 am to cardboardboxer
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Without the ACTUAL tie to the university, they are more likely to do dumb things that harm the university brand.
Sorority girls at State shite all over this statement. Literally.
The reality is it boils down to the personality and demeanor of a person. Not their ties to a University IMO. I've seen some shitty alums and great sidewalkers just as much as I've seen the alternative. It's no coincidence that extremely popular teams garner large numbers of fans that may not attend the University. Especially if that University is selective in their enrollment.
Posted on 2/14/15 at 11:59 am to BluegrassBelle
Well yeah if someone gets locked into the Greek system it can be high school 2.0. That is my favorite part about A&M, that culture isn't there.
Posted on 2/14/15 at 1:25 pm to BluegrassBelle
You don't know shite!
See what I did there?
See what I did there?
Posted on 2/15/15 at 1:38 am to WhitewaterDawg
I don't agree that it's education or lack their of, I bet most can be traced to alcohol consumption and an audience. That is a combination that has afflicted people from all walks of life.
I see no difference in sidewalk fans and someone who is a passionate for example Dallas cowboys fans who never lived in Dallas.
I see no difference in sidewalk fans and someone who is a passionate for example Dallas cowboys fans who never lived in Dallas.
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