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re: Why did Auburn get rid of Tuberville?

Posted on 10/2/15 at 11:17 am to
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 11:17 am to
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Continual success?!?! I'm 36 years old...Bama was trash in the 80's, decent from 89-94, ran off Gene, and had the 3-Mike debacle...until Saban came in. 2008-2012 was great to you, I'll give you that. Georgia had Herschel...and then a couple years under Richt. That's it. So continual success is an overstatement...better yet it's just a flat-out LIE.
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saved to my computer for future use in a debate
Save it all you want, just don't pin it on me because I didn't say that shite, that would be thridlawson.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31803 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 11:21 am to
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I read that on the ATPB as well
Come on man, Bobby Lowder is a "Tiger of a Trustee", the national media told us so years ago.
Posted by Julienas
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 11:37 am to
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Not 100% true, although he did take a lot of under the radar type guys. Tubby's recruiting was basically the trifecta of not having to try:

A) he got fat off Bama being down and on probation. AU got the majority of the talent in state pre-Saban. He was getting guys that have been cornerstones of Saban's dynasty at Bama. For example as juniors in HS Julio Jones and Courtney Upshaw were considered AU locks until Saban was hired.

B) He was a good talent evaluator and took a lot of lower rates guys because they were easy. But they weren't really "scraps" like you said, just under the radar. Guys like De'Runnya Wilson who are currently tearing it up elsewhere would be at AU under Tubs.

C) he took high rated guys that were locks. Guys that wanted to come to AU anyway that he didn't have to work for, and left overs in Georgia that UGA didn't have room for.

Saban came in and locked down all the top in-state recruits for the first few years, and also started to take a lot of guys from Georgia that AU used to get. Tubs basically stopped trying to recruit even more than before and the roster was depleted and we were falling farther and farther behind, and THAT is why we fired Tuberville


Very good and informative post. Those Auburn teams in the first decade were nasty, and I've never hated a team more than I hated yall after our 2006 game. I'm actually surprised that I'm mostly over it by now. Time heals all wounds I guess.

But man those were some nasty games we had in the first decade of the millennium. I'm not even sure they were good games; our teams just wanted to kill each other.

But yeah by the end of Tubby's reign at Auburn yall were a shell of what yall were a few years prior. I remember thinking Al Borges ran the most beautiful offense
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19695 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 11:44 am to
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Come on man, Bobby Lowder is a "Tiger of a Trustee", the national media told us so years ago.
That was before Colonial Bank went tits up.

Again, I can't think of a single SEC football power whose program isn't run in the same manner as AU's. My guess is that when Mrs. Terry make's her husband's arse quit in the next year or so you'll get a reminder.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15729 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 11:46 am to
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Seriously.



Why?


They knew that Saban was going to start dominating recruiting in the state and return Bama into a national power so they made a desperation move.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 11:52 am to
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so they made a desperation move.


Ironically it results in 2 SEC titles and a National title.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15729 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:02 pm to
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Ironically it results in 2 SEC titles and a National title.


The gamble paid off
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6902 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:05 pm to
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Saban came in and locked down all the top in-state recruits for the first few years, and also started to take a lot of guys from Georgia that AU used to get. Tubs basically stopped trying to recruit even more than before and the roster was depleted and we were falling farther and farther behind, and THAT is why we fired Tuberville


This nails it I think. Tuberville was a solid in game coach but the talent gap between AU and Bama was really growing.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:06 pm to
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Tuberville

The clip that played on sportcenter of him jumping around and celebrating with his team last night makes him look so incredibly goofy.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17733 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:13 pm to
Tubs wants the Arkie job.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31803 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:18 pm to
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The clip that played on sportcenter of him jumping around and celebrating with his team last night makes him look so incredibly goofy.


It's better than the clip of him knocking one of his assistants headset off in anger on the Texas Tech sidelines.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13085 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:19 pm to
Tubbs has that special degree of class that Arky seems to value.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19695 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:14 pm to
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The gamble paid off
As did Bama's, offering the most lucrative contract in college football history to a guy who a)had a career .671 winning percentage as a P5 HC and 2)was struggling in his first NFL gig.

I'm sure you'll be just as fortunate next time around.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Member since Aug 2012
11080 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:15 pm to
Auburn is gay?!?
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38793 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:17 pm to
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Because he refused to be a lapdog for Pat Dye, Bobby Lowder, and Jimmy Rane.


This.

When Chizik was hired, Pat Dye was front and center. A reporter asked him how he felt about the hire he said, "I haven't felt as welcome in this facility in a long, long time."


Tuberville had a policy of keeping pretty much any former player out of his program unless he had a personal relationship with them or hired them as a coach.

I can't think of a single time Bo was on the sideline of a game during the Tuberville years. After Tubs is canned? All of a sudden Bo starts coming to games. I guess the most iconic and celebrated Auburn player of all time either wasn't or didn't feel welcome around the Tuberville program.

Doing that is one helluva easy way to isolate your program so that it sinks at the first sign of trouble.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:18 pm to
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magildachunks
Seriously.



Why?


Les Miles and Urban Myer arrived and Nick Saban returned.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38793 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:20 pm to
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Pat Dye wanted a say in the football operations.Tubs told him to gtfo. Dye had Bobby Lowder and JJacobs ear. The first time he could he made the case to run Tubby off they did.
Chiz was someone Dye was in love with for a number of reasons. One being he would have a say in the foot ball program.
Dye was a regular on F-bomb and sang the praises of the greatest of Chiz. Even the year of the collapse.




Always check with the gumps to discover the deep, dark inner workings of the Auburn program.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:29 pm to
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WeBleedCrimson



Blurry as heck
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:31 pm to
surprised Gus isn't on the hot seat. didn't think Auburn people would tolerate this.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34579 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:31 pm to
Thread about Auburn, here comes Jamie fricking Lannister
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