re: Why Carolina hired Muschamp instead of Herman and how the search failed.

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And...

You're also right professionally. There are many search firms that SUCK.

I'm not familiar with your firm in my hometown. I live and specialize up here in New England now.

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It is always interesting talking (or posting) with someone who has seen behind the curtain.

And, not to sound like a Dick, but in reality if someone read this thread carefully there's a pretty good chance that I've placed them in their current job (at least one or two) and they'd appreciate me keeping my internet anonymity.

CSS's departure may have been sudden, yet that put him (Tanner, the Carolina AD) way ahead of the curve.
He knew he needed a new coach before almost every other AD.

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Is there a possibility something else might have happened? Of course. But IMHO the OP nailed the most likely scenario dead on.

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Him and everyone else who was paying any attention. You don't need to special training to understand what happened there. It was the most likely scenario.

It didn't hurt that he is VERY GOOD friends with Steve Spurrier and recommended him for the job. Spurrier offered him to come onto his staff last year after Fla. firing. He better than heavens Spurrier thinks well of him.

Bean town bulldog - good analysis of the South Carolina coaching search. With the early start I was expecting those guys to knock it out the park with their search

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You're actually kinda right about this.
Basically, a good organization can do a "handshake" hire.
Other times it's complicated. Remember, USCe is not exactly a destination.
In hindsight, I believe they needed help.

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I believe your biological father needed help from the pimp in choosing your mother ... and after your unplanned birth he wished he had just done a handshake with his own peen and saved himself the $5 he paid your mom.

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CSS's departure may have been sudden, yet that put him (Tanner, the Carolina AD) way ahead of the curve.
He knew he needed a new coach before almost every other AD.

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So, smart guy, who should Tanner have hired if not Muschamp?

Sheeesh, the only thing worse than a knowitall holier than though dawg fan is a fricktard yankee dawg fan.

If you honestly think AD Tanner did a good job here in this hiring process then I would suggest taking the rose colored glasses off.
As for your personal attacks I'll offer that those reflect more upon you, the way you feel about yourself, other problems that you're having that have absolutely nothing to do with me. Absolutely nothing to do with me.
My impetus to write this post was when I realized I might be able to offer some insight.

The coaching search was not handled well by your AD. That's all.

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I should start by saying that I have a background as an executive recruiter and search consultant. I am also passionate about SEC football. This is what I think happened:

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So you're a recruiter ... one of what, a few million in today's fricked-up HR overzealous business world? You're illustrative of what is wrong with this country these days. You stalk the Internet, relying mostly on LinkedIn, looking for candidates that may or may not fit a certain criteria someone is looking for, then give them a call hoping to talk them into interviewing for said position ... when, in essence, what you really do is throw a dart at a wall and play a numbers game hoping one of them will stick.

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I'm fairly certain that Ray Tanner used a search firm for this coaching opening. If he didn't he definitely should have and his results might have been different. If he did use a search firm - they absolutely dropped the ball when it came to Herman.

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He used Bob Beaudine of Eastman-Beaudine ... whose dick you would suck to garner for a chance to be an intern. You also don't know dick about how the search went-down, so that makes you a dick for being an assumptive prick and starting this bullshite thread.

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The most important skill a search consultant has is the ability to ask questions to determine a possible candidate's motivations for making a move. Why are they looking elsewhere at other opportunities? What is wrong with their current position? Are they only motivated by money? It's only by asking these questions that you can QUALIFY a candidate. What does that mean?

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Oh sheeesh, stfu.

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Nick Saban is obviously qualified to coach college football but he's definitely not a qualified candidate for the CAROLINA opening. Why? Simply because he's not motivated to actually make a move to USCe. He doesn't want to. Herman is also a qualified college coach, however, he was not qualified as a candidate for Carolina. He was literally not qualified by the search consultant. The search consultant didn't do their job by asking the right questions. If he/she would have determined the truth initially they wouldn't have wasted time with Herman.

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I guess that's why he met with Tanner or the 27th and 28th of November down in Houston at Gamecock alumni's Bob McNair's home? Sheeeeesh ... you're a know-nothing fricktard. What are you, 31 maybe? Been recruiting for how long, three years max because you failed at actually doing? What do they say about recruiters in today's modern professional world ... if you can't do, recruit those who can and do?

BTW, Beaudine knew Herman personally and has helped place both him at Houston and Fuente at Memphis.

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Herman was job shopping- not because he necessarily wanted to move to Carolina but because he may have wanted some leverage to negotiate his new contract at Houston. My bet is that his agent knows how these things work. USCe was used to increase his value as a coach in the open talent market and they got played as a result. As a recruiter we were taught to uncover the TRUE motivating factors for a move and then we were taught to cover counter-offers early and often. This was not done. Therefore, thanks to USCe (and their search firm) Mr. Herman got a great raise at Houston and Carolina scrambled in the end to land Mr. Boom.

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You would lose the bet.

Herman reached-out initially, because he was interested and because Urban Meyer had told him the SCAR job was one he may want to consider. Meyer and Tanner also talked. Tanner and Herman spoke in great length on several occasions. What transpired during the course of the search was a series of unfortunate events from SCAR's perspective.

1 - LSU/Les Miles' situation arose whereas LSU became a possibility for Herman ... the perfect situation for him actually. But LSU wanted Jimbo, who withdrew his name from consideration almost immediately, then the fans got behind Les and that was that for Herman ... but it changed his perspective because now he started hearing he would be next in line for the Texas job. Around that time SCAR lost to The Citadel and Herman withdrew his name from the SCAR search.

Fuente had failed to vet-out which is why he instantly became a no-go for every SEC program, once word spread, and he jumped on the Va Tech job with provisions that he retain certain members of the current staff.

Kirby Smart was next in line for SCAR ... but the UGA/Richt episode took him off the board.

Rich Rodriquez had been lobbying for the job and even submitted a formal resume which, if you are such a great fricking recruiter you are aware of the EEOC HR requirements for most state funded institutions regarding obligatory interviews once a qualified candidate has applied ... I mean you are aware of those laws, correct?

Rich Rod was never offered the job. The only mistake Tanner made was not handling the PR correctly with regard to the Rich Rod lie.

Lincoln Riley had also applied and was considered a serious candidate and an informal interview was done ... but he was too young and there were serious questions about him being able to assemble a staff.

Muschamp became the logical choice for obvious reasons.

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This is all simply my informed opinion.

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lulz

Yours was, potentially, one of the most uninformed opinions I remember seeing on any topic of interest in my life. I've seen and heard complete and utter bullshite many times, but I cannot remember one ever being so full of complete and utter bullshite, while claiming the bonefides to offer such an opinion, as yours.

I'll bet you were a helluva used car salesman in your 20s though huh?