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re: Why can’t coaches sustain success at LSU?
Posted on 2/14/25 at 2:21 pm to TrueLefty
Posted on 2/14/25 at 2:21 pm to TrueLefty
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The last two years Mizzou ended up ranked higher than LSU. That got to hurt.
our fans haven't been happy but mizzous have right? that should tell you something about the expectations at each school...congrats on finishing higher than a team whose fans think is underperforming!
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Posted on 2/14/25 at 2:22 pm to kajunman
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Hurt what ? Now do natties the last 25 years. You would give both nuts just to play in a natty.
We aren't going back to the past. We are talking about right now! Current situation. Mizzou is on the rise. That is the point the NIL and the new transport portal have helped Mizzou football big time. That is why you should look hard in the mirror if BK flopped once again this year he will have a harder time to recover and get the support he needs to continue at LSU.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 2:30 pm to bamameister
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I remember when Nebraska fired Frank Solice because he wasn't Tom Osborne. Forget the 10-win seasons and conference championship, they wanted another Tom.
Frank Baby looked a lot better after Bill Callahan, Mike Riley, and Scott Frost.
The last team to win a national championship running the triple option was Nebraska in 97.
The game passed Solich by, the only argument was going to the complete opposite side with Bill Callahan instead of hiring a balanced coach to make the transition.
Solich might have won 9 or 10 games, but he was never going to sniff a national championship.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 2:41 pm to collegefootballisbroken
Here's Les Miles' record by year at LSU:
2005: 11-2
2006: 11-2
2007: 12-2, won BCS national championship
2008: 8-5
2009: 9-4
2010: 11-2
2011: 13-1, made BCS Championship Game
2012: 10-3
2014: 8-5,
2015: 9-3,
2016: 2-2, fired four games into the season
If you exclude 2016, Les averaged 10.2 wins a year. Not bad in the toughest conference there is. The college football game was changing towards the end of his time at LSU and going to an RPO/spread style offenses and he just stayed with the hard mouth smash'em type offense that a good defensive line and stacking the box would stop.
2005: 11-2
2006: 11-2
2007: 12-2, won BCS national championship
2008: 8-5
2009: 9-4
2010: 11-2
2011: 13-1, made BCS Championship Game
2012: 10-3
2014: 8-5,
2015: 9-3,
2016: 2-2, fired four games into the season
If you exclude 2016, Les averaged 10.2 wins a year. Not bad in the toughest conference there is. The college football game was changing towards the end of his time at LSU and going to an RPO/spread style offenses and he just stayed with the hard mouth smash'em type offense that a good defensive line and stacking the box would stop.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 2:43 pm to TrueLefty
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The last two years Mizzou ended up ranked higher than LSU. That got to hurt.
Not really, you played weak schedules and lost to LSU at home.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 2:46 pm to mtb010
A coach wins a natty and goes to the nfl…and that is a bad reflection on the school?
It looks worse on the coach when he fails down from the nfl to a dumpster fire.
It looks worse on the coach when he fails down from the nfl to a dumpster fire.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 2:52 pm to kengel2
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The game passed Solich by, the only argument was going to the complete opposite side with Bill Callahan instead of hiring a balanced coach to make the transition.
Then Nebraska hired Bo Peini (67-27) and he also won on the same level as Solich. The next 4 head coaches couldn't coach .500 football at a football factory. It can always get worse and often does.
If it's always about national championship or bust, then failure will always be the norm at every school, regardless of record.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 2:54 pm to bamameister
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Then Nebraska hired Bo Peini (67-27) and he also won on the same level as Solich. The next 4 head coaches couldn't coach .500 football at a football factory. It can always get worse and often does.
If it's always about national championship or bust, then failure will always be the norm at every school, regardless of record
IMO, a lot of those guys that get fired for not winning at a high enough level aren't actually bad coaches, it just hasn't come together for them yet. Firing guys like that creates a lot of instability and begins a death spiral.
Look how long it took the last two winners in Harbaugh and Day to win one at their respective schools.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 3:03 pm to SidewalkTiger
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IMO, a lot of those guys that get fired for not winning at a high enough level aren't actually bad coaches, it just hasn't come together for them yet. Firing guys like that creates a lot of instability and begins a death spiral.
Look how long it took the last two winners in Harbaugh and Day to win one at their respective schools.
I agree with that. Guys like Solice and Pelini won and were good enough to win a conference or be a wildcard, and that is a ticket to the playoff these days. I would never say about any head coach at a football school they couldn't win it all if they could get in the big dance. Ryan Day was not making Ohio State fans happy by racking up unprecedented wins until he won it all about 3 seconds ago. Until Day raised that trophy, no one was happy.
All to say, getting time to build, at any elite Power 4 school, ain't in the cards.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 3:06 pm to TrueLefty
Mizzou will never win anything of importance in college football.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 3:22 pm to kajunman
It’s keeping Iowa from crashing into Arkansas brother. Nobody wants that.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 3:23 pm to SidewalkTiger
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The last two years Mizzou ended up ranked higher than LSU. That got to hurt.
Not really, you played weak schedules and lost to LSU at home.
Once again you and other LSU fans keep forgetting that Mizzou never has had a comparable roster to LSU and other top programs. That is why I am pointing this out that Mizzou is on the rise due to the roster being much improved and has never gotten this good before NIL was set up and the new transfer rule changed. Mizzou is slowly catching up. That is the point why Mizzou is getting better each year. Last year was a minor setback due to the loss of the DC and DL coach. The starting quarterback and one star wide receiver got hurt for several games and have not played their best football all of the games. Drinkwitz did a great job recruiting from last year's and this year's recruiting class and this year's transfer portal class. Indiana isn't going to be as good and be lucky like last year because the roster hasn't improved much at all. It all starts from having a good roster that can compete against top teams then coaching them correctly. LSU had one of the top roster last year and couldn't make the playoffs. Why is that? Coaching is the next step to get those highly rated players to get the job done. That is where BK comes in. He failed to get it done against USC, Texas A&M, and Florida. Plus getting blown out at home at night against Alabama and a HC that just took over from Nick Saban.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 3:51 pm to collegefootballisbroken
Why is bams so worried our 4th straight coach about to win if all next season?
Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:33 pm to TrueLefty
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Once again you and other LSU fans keep forgetting that Mizzou
It's not that we forget. It's that we don't give a frick.
What we forget is that mizzou is even in the SEC.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:35 pm to collegefootballisbroken
All of them could at least beat Vanderbilt 
Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:45 pm to TrueLefty
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LSU had one of the top roster last year and couldn't make the playoffs. Why is that? Coaching
No we didn’t? Where do you pull this shite out of? Your arse.
LSU was replacing a Heisman QB and 2 first round WR’s.
The D-line talent last year was the weakest at LSU since 1994.
Our best defensive player, Harold Perkins, was lost for the year after game 1.
Our secondary talent was the weakest it’s been in 25 years.
No… our roster was no where near a top roster clown.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 4:54 pm to TrueLefty
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Once again you and other LSU fans keep forgetting that Mizzou never has had a comparable roster to LSU and other top programs. That is why I am pointing this out that Mizzou is on the rise due to the roster being much improved and has never gotten this good before NIL was set up and the new transfer rule changed. Mizzou is slowly catching up. That is the point why Mizzou is getting better each year. Last year was a minor setback due to the loss of the DC and DL coach. The starting quarterback and one star wide receiver got hurt for several games and have not played their best football all of the games. Drinkwitz did a great job recruiting from last year's and this year's recruiting class and this year's transfer portal class. Indiana isn't going to be as good and be lucky like last year because the roster hasn't improved much at all. It all starts from having a good roster that can compete against top teams then coaching them correctly. LSU had one of the top roster last year and couldn't make the playoffs. Why is that? Coaching is the next step to get those highly rated players to get the job done. That is where BK comes in. He failed to get it done against USC, Texas A&M, and Florida. Plus getting blown out at home at night against Alabama and a HC that just took over from Nick Saban.
You keep talking about Mizzou finishing ranked higher than LSU then you just want to make excuses when it's pointed out that you played weak schedules and lost to LSU at home.
Your obsession with BK is so weird.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 5:42 pm to SidewalkTiger
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You keep talking about Mizzou finishing ranked higher than LSU then you just want to make excuses when it's pointed out that you played weak schedules and lost to LSU at home.
Your obsession with BK is so weird.
You keep posting that doesn't make any sense!
I am posting to counter your garbage information. Good Luck to LSU football this coming season.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 6:09 pm to Tammany Tom
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No we didn’t? Where do you pull this shite out of? Your arse.
LSU was replacing a Heisman QB and 2 first round WR’s.
The D-line talent last year was the weakest at LSU since 1994.
Our best defensive player, Harold Perkins, was lost for the year after game 1.
Our secondary talent was the weakest it’s been in 25 years.
No… our roster was no where near a top roster clown.
Compare to what Missouri had. Low 3* quarterback, running back that should have been okay but didn't pan out, OL wasn't good enough to open holes for the running backs. LSU roster has 4* and 5* players and maybe very few 3* players. Missouri on the other hand has One 5* player and some 4* players and mostly 3* players. What am I missing? This coming season I'm seeing more 5* players and 4* players and there will be less 3* players starting. This is a much better roster than last year. I do get it that this year LSU roster will be better. How much better? That is the question. Will the HC and coaching staff get the players to play to their talent level and win 10 or more regular season games this coming season?
Posted on 2/14/25 at 6:13 pm to TrueLefty
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Plus getting blown out at home at night against Alabama and a HC that just took over from Nick Saban.
Well looky there, y’all have something in common. Feel better now?
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