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re: Why Attendance is Down at Football Games
Posted on 8/16/13 at 6:26 pm to Bama Bird
Posted on 8/16/13 at 6:26 pm to Bama Bird
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Well I think that's one of the big issues in CFB. Costs aren't falling with the demand. Obviously South Carolina-Georgia is a big game, so this doesn't necessarily apply. But prices will still be too high for a game that doesn't sell 75% of tickets (like a cupcake game).
I don't know how the other schools work, but at UGA, you can't just buy 1 or 3 games. You make a minimum $500 donation (for cheap seats, higher donation for better seats) just to be entered into a lottery (unless you already have season tix, then you are guaranteed renewal) and if you get picked out of the lottery, then you are lucky enough to have the opportunity to pay face for the season.
So, the big shots that have the tickets only want to go to the big games, and refuse to sell their extras for cheap, because they calculate in their donation to what they paid for the ticket price.
They either give their tickets away to friends/family for the shitty games, or just don't go. They don't even bother with the hassle of stub hub. So yes, even the shitty games, expensive to get tickets at UGA.
I forgot what point I was trying to make. My jimmies are rustled.
ETA- I remember my point. There's no such thing as a "not sold out" game at UGA. They are always sold out by default.
This post was edited on 8/16/13 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 8/16/13 at 6:54 pm to Bama Bird
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I actually think parking is the number one issue- here, at least, you have to pay $20 or something to park a mile away. On campus spaces should be open and free, with a designated handicapped lot
Handicapped around Bryant Denny is free
Posted on 8/16/13 at 6:59 pm to Chuck Barris
Have you seen my tv and couch? I'm sure most people have the same feeling.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 7:02 pm to parrothead
It's because the experience at home is often times a lot better with way less time involved and I don't get arrested for getting plastered, yelling obscenities and throwing shite. Usually.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 7:06 pm to deeprig9
It's because Ole Miss fans are poor and they can't afford a $20 ticket if it was given to them.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 7:24 pm to deeprig9
Don't blame the prices. Just free market economy at work.
Get your bank account up.
says the poster who's broke as a joke
Get your bank account up.
says the poster who's broke as a joke

Posted on 8/16/13 at 7:29 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Don't blame the prices. Just free market economy at work.
No, that's not true, if you read all the responses in this thread, you'd already know that. The prices are artificially inflated due to the way the tickets are sold from the school, long before they ever touch the open market.
Although the tickets are always sold out well in advance of the season, the seat aren't always full.
UGA has addressed that by banning and reselling student tickets from people that don't go to enough of the games.
They need to start doing that shite to all the season ticket holders.
Enter popcorn icon or some other "shite just got real" gif.
This post was edited on 8/16/13 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 8/16/13 at 7:35 pm to deeprig9
Simply put, it would cost me more than a really nice shotgun to take my family to a game.
I'd rather buy the shotgun and watch the game on TV.
I'd rather buy the shotgun and watch the game on TV.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 7:57 pm to Bama Bird
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On campus spaces should be open and free,
You can have them, and I'll be home ah hour before you. I park on a side street close to that apartment complex near the University Club...for free.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 8:00 pm to deeprig9
It's a combination of gigantic high def flat screen tv's being so cheap everyone has an awesome one and ticket prices going through the roof, far beyond the pace of inflation.
Face value for Alabama tickets was like $40/$50 about a decade ago and are like $75/$85 now. It's almost doubled in a little over 10 years. Other schools have had similiar increases, at least % wise.
And that's just face value which very few people actually end up payign. Season ticket holders pay a premium on top of that and the aftermarket sales are normally at least double face, if not more.
Universities are also charging a pretty penny for parking, tailgating spots, etc. A lot of these things used to be free too.
For a family (or a couple) to go to a major game you're looking at a $300+ investment minimum, more for the big games. There are enough people willing to pay this.
However the number of people willnig to pay that much to watching you beat Podunk State by 45 points is much smaller.
Face value for Alabama tickets was like $40/$50 about a decade ago and are like $75/$85 now. It's almost doubled in a little over 10 years. Other schools have had similiar increases, at least % wise.
And that's just face value which very few people actually end up payign. Season ticket holders pay a premium on top of that and the aftermarket sales are normally at least double face, if not more.
Universities are also charging a pretty penny for parking, tailgating spots, etc. A lot of these things used to be free too.
For a family (or a couple) to go to a major game you're looking at a $300+ investment minimum, more for the big games. There are enough people willing to pay this.
However the number of people willnig to pay that much to watching you beat Podunk State by 45 points is much smaller.
This post was edited on 8/16/13 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 8/16/13 at 8:11 pm to deeprig9
[quote]It's not because of flat screen TV's.
It's because the cheapest endzone upper deck tickets for UGA-LSU and UGA-SC are $190 per ticket on Stub Hub. /quote]
I agree, but people will pay it.
The problem is not the cost of the actual ticket, it's the scalped cost of the actual ticket.
Club fans are trying to recoup their entire seating license cost by prorating their spare ticket allotment to scalpers.
I can buy eight tickets for every game, my four primaries and my four secondaries. Everyone that sits around me does the same.
I've had the same four primary tickets lower level west near the 45 yard line for a few decades.
I invested in South upper mezzanine level when they finished that expansion in the 90s.
I could, if I wanted to, recoup the cost of the south endzone tickets PLUS pay for my four primary seating licenses by scalping my south endzone tickets ... if I wanted.
Unfortunately I have a large family of grown kids who abuse the good-natured tendencies of their Pop.
It's because the cheapest endzone upper deck tickets for UGA-LSU and UGA-SC are $190 per ticket on Stub Hub. /quote]
I agree, but people will pay it.
The problem is not the cost of the actual ticket, it's the scalped cost of the actual ticket.
Club fans are trying to recoup their entire seating license cost by prorating their spare ticket allotment to scalpers.
I can buy eight tickets for every game, my four primaries and my four secondaries. Everyone that sits around me does the same.
I've had the same four primary tickets lower level west near the 45 yard line for a few decades.
I invested in South upper mezzanine level when they finished that expansion in the 90s.
I could, if I wanted to, recoup the cost of the south endzone tickets PLUS pay for my four primary seating licenses by scalping my south endzone tickets ... if I wanted.
Unfortunately I have a large family of grown kids who abuse the good-natured tendencies of their Pop.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:55 pm to deeprig9
Umm... the official capacity of Kyle Field is 82,589. The lowest attendance of 6 home games last year was Arkansas (I suspect because of the terrible weather) at 86,422.
So I'm having a bit of trouble following the OP's premise
Interestingly, this came out today from the A&M AD:
So I guess if high prices do become a problem, this might help keep attendance up.
So I'm having a bit of trouble following the OP's premise

Interestingly, this came out today from the A&M AD:
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***IMPORTANT**** Resale of student tickets/sports options for profit is prohibited. Student sports options are heavily subsidized by season ticket holders. Former Students and Aggie fans have long been committed to maintaining the quality and size of the student allotment at Kyle Field. In return, Texas A&M students, the 12th Man, are expected to honor this commitment by not reselling for profit their student tickets. These tickets, home and away, are for student use ONLY. Texas A&M students are prohibited from reselling sports options/student tickets (home or road) for profit. Students found to be in violation of this policy will be penalized. Penalties include the cancellation of sports options, cancellation of tickets already pulled, and the loss of sports option privileges for the duration of their Texas A&M career.
So I guess if high prices do become a problem, this might help keep attendance up.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 10:30 pm to scrooster
Y'all think flat screen TV's are really the issue here??
Posted on 8/16/13 at 10:42 pm to deeprig9
Not down at A&M. We adding seats, 100K plus here we come.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 10:53 pm to Paul Allen
I don't. See LINK
Several schools are down but really within the noise. A&M, for example, was down 169/game, but does that really matter when every game is over capacity? The schools that were significantly down had lousy years: Tennessee, Kentucky, and Auburn were down enough to screw the average for the conference. (I think the Ole Miss number must be a typo for 2011 and they meant 55K rather than 65K.) An outlier is Florida, down over 1400/game compared to 2011. I can't explain that one away.
Several schools are down but really within the noise. A&M, for example, was down 169/game, but does that really matter when every game is over capacity? The schools that were significantly down had lousy years: Tennessee, Kentucky, and Auburn were down enough to screw the average for the conference. (I think the Ole Miss number must be a typo for 2011 and they meant 55K rather than 65K.) An outlier is Florida, down over 1400/game compared to 2011. I can't explain that one away.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 10:53 pm to Farmer1906
Big games will sell out. It's the other games that will be a the big issue moving forward. Let's look at UF vs Toledo. Now UF sells its alumni side out, and the student section will fill per usual. It's the upper decks that you see people not being at, and the expensive touchdown terrance.
Stub hub one set of tickets at 20 bucks, but the rest start at 35.
So 35 bucks, times 2. 70. Times their fee, about 90. Now parking, 20. It's hot in the Swamp, so 20 bucks each person to stay hydrated probably. Gas if from out of town.
It would cost me about 200 bucks to go see Florida vs Toledo if I sat in absolutely terrible seats. A lot of people don't want to do this.
Now FSU, Vandy, Arkansas, Tennessee...those will sell out easily.
Stub hub one set of tickets at 20 bucks, but the rest start at 35.
So 35 bucks, times 2. 70. Times their fee, about 90. Now parking, 20. It's hot in the Swamp, so 20 bucks each person to stay hydrated probably. Gas if from out of town.
It would cost me about 200 bucks to go see Florida vs Toledo if I sat in absolutely terrible seats. A lot of people don't want to do this.
Now FSU, Vandy, Arkansas, Tennessee...those will sell out easily.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 10:59 pm to finestfirst79
Most SEC schools sell out their season tickets whether we show up is up to us. I know Alabama has a Tide Pride waiting list of almost 30,000 people waiting to buy tickets.
Posted on 8/16/13 at 11:46 pm to finestfirst79
08Gator hit on most of it, but for season ticket holders at UF there has been a $250 increase in the required "donation" per seat and about a $15 increase in face value. Honestly, I don't know why I'm still buying them. Especially when its almost a guaranteed 3 games a year will be cupcakes (this year being the exception).
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