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Posted on 12/23/24 at 2:36 pm to John Milner
I think the problem with some of Lane’s teams is they take half the year to gel, and by the time they are firing on all cylinders, they already dropped games at the start.
When you have guys that learn the system year one, they are still susceptible to making mistakes. Off side calls, misaligned, etc.
When you have guys that learn the system year one, they are still susceptible to making mistakes. Off side calls, misaligned, etc.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 2:40 pm to DawginSC
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I think the best bet is to be picking up guys from the portal not for the next year, but for a couple seasons down the road. Relying on a transfer in his first year is like relying on a true freshman. There's a lot of learning that needs to happen and sometimes it may take all season.
I kind of think UGA struggled with that at RB having to rely on Ettiene (a transfer) and Frazier (a true freshman). I think we're starting to be okay now... but it took all season.
I think there's too many variables.
Etienne contributed right away because he was far and away the best RB in the room the second he stepped on campus, prior to the Robinson injuries.
Yurosek contributed right away with Delp and Luckie playing inconsistently.
Colbie Young contributed right away before the suspension.
RaRa was a set-in-stone starter before his suspension.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 3:25 pm to JayAg
Why turn down top players transferring from other schools? If you have room and money to get them then take them. It's just a way of measuring how well you are doing compared to others in getting transfers. It's no different than trying to be #1 in HS kids that haven't played in college at all.
It's basically a way to fill in needs with players that have college experience.
It's basically a way to fill in needs with players that have college experience.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 12/23/24 at 3:36 pm to Rabern57
I’m not saying don’t take the highest rated guys with multiple years left. Especially to replace guys leaving or depth.
I’m saying it gets crazy when you take 20+ guys, half never played P4 ball, and expect them to be an upgrade of what you had. If you bring 50 new players, you don’t think a 10 win season is delusional bc half the team has to learn the system (comparable to a new OC/DC coming in)? Idk
For example, is it better to take an athletic 3 star HS kid or a 3 star productive G5 5th year senior, who is only a 3 star bc he’s never played P4 football? Idk
I rather have LSU’s small transfer class to Texas Tech’s number 1 class. You wouldn’t?
I’m saying it gets crazy when you take 20+ guys, half never played P4 ball, and expect them to be an upgrade of what you had. If you bring 50 new players, you don’t think a 10 win season is delusional bc half the team has to learn the system (comparable to a new OC/DC coming in)? Idk
For example, is it better to take an athletic 3 star HS kid or a 3 star productive G5 5th year senior, who is only a 3 star bc he’s never played P4 football? Idk
I rather have LSU’s small transfer class to Texas Tech’s number 1 class. You wouldn’t?
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:06 pm to JayAg
The portal is very weak so far this year. Could get more interesting after more playoff and bowl games.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:16 pm to JayAg
Lol. I hope nobody is fighting to be #1 in the portal. Alot of teams are putting thejr resources into the portal more than normal bc they see an opportunity to improve their teams and fill positions of need that they need addressed asap due to there being young talent and inexperience. I want LSU to do exactly what theyre doing...sign really good starters at positions of need that we cant afford to wait for production to develop so to speak with young players. Could give a shite less if LSU is number 1 in the portal. Just field the best team we possibly can...and most importantly, just win baby. Geaux tigers.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:25 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
I’ve seen podcasts and beat writers saying Tech has to be in the playoffs next year bc of their transfer class that’s #1 due to quantity. And I wonder to myself, why aren’t these football guys filling in the context of why that might be an ambitious standard to hold Tech to? Idk, just weird some national football guys are putting mad stock into the portal class, and rankings.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:29 pm to JayAg
It's to improve immediately. But recruiting is best long term.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:41 pm to LSUlefty
Do you agree or disagree that after a certain point, there is diminishing returns when you have to onboard too many guys to the new schemes?
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:56 pm to deeprig9
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Etienne contributed right away because he was far and away the best RB in the room the second he stepped on campus, prior to the Robinson injuries.
Yurosek contributed right away with Delp and Luckie playing inconsistently.
Colbie Young contributed right away before the suspension.
RaRa was a set-in-stone starter before his suspension.
I disagree a little. Ettienne wasn't very good until the later parts of the season when he was healthy (not when he was hurt obviously). While he was the best we had, he also didn't light of the field either. I think he's worked his way into being comfortable with the offense.
Yurosek has 15 catches. He hasn't been all that impactful this year.
RaRa Thomas was in his second year this season. His first year he had mediocre production.
Colbie Young had 11 catches this year before his issues.
I believe all of them would have/will be significantly more useful in their second year in the system. Their year 1 impacts have been okay but not exceptional for transfers at the best. Kind of invisible for the least productive transfers.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:14 pm to JayAg
Geez I wonder why some teams have to take more players than other teams.
Also, I know this is aimed at Ole Miss and LSU, because you pussys are so insecure. But they have taken 12-15 players.
Also, I know this is aimed at Ole Miss and LSU, because you pussys are so insecure. But they have taken 12-15 players.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:28 pm to JayAg
quote:I would rather have a small class that's full of more talent. It's why I look at classes on average player and not total points. I also wish they would factor in what teams need. You could sign the top 25 QBs in the nation and be ranked high but not have a good class.
I rather have LSU’s small transfer class to Texas Tech’s number 1 class. You wouldn’t?
It still doesn't take away from wanting the top transfer class and bragging about it.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:32 pm to JayAg
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I think the problem with some of Lane’s teams is they take half the year to gel, and by the time they are firing on all cylinders, they already dropped games at the start.
Well we beat them in game eleven so there goes that theory.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:40 pm to JayAg
The same can be said about recruiting rankings. If I remember correctly, a team from what was once the SEC West even printed t-shirts about it
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:42 pm to DawginSC
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I think the best bet is to be picking up guys from the portal not for the next year, but for a couple seasons down the road. Relying on a transfer in his first year is like relying on a true freshman. There's a lot of learning that needs to happen and sometimes it may take all season.
Hence, the quality of play across the sport taking a nosedive.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:44 pm to SidewalkTiger
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So what's the problem with bringing in 12-15 and being #1?
Doing that isn't necessarily a problem, having to do that every year (which, along with graduation, leads to having to replace nearly half a team or more every season) is. No depth or familiarity with a system is built or maintained from season-to-season.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:44 pm to DawginSC
I don't want to get all djsdawg on you but...
We'll have to agree to disagree on this.
He's splitting reps with two other TE's. Extrapolate that to 45 catches for a TE, that's impactful in my opinion.
Since he's in his second year here (or was) let's just take him out of the discussion that seems to be around immediate impact players. Although he did contribute immediately last year.
CFB Stats words it as 11 plays, but that number seems low, I have to assume they mean 11 receptions or 11 targets. CFB Stats is unclear. But, in those 11 "plays" he accounted for 149 yards and two TD's. Because it was spread out over 5 games, it doesn't seem impactful. But in my opinion, 150 yards and two TD's in 11 plays is the hallmark of an impact receiver. That's superstar numbers, and who knows how impactful he would have been if he got to play the whole season, given our WR room woes.
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Ettienne wasn't very good until the later parts of the season when he was healthy (not when he was hurt obviously). While he was the best we had, he also didn't light of the field either. I think he's worked his way into being comfortable with the offense.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this.
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Yurosek has 15 catches. He hasn't been all that impactful this year.
He's splitting reps with two other TE's. Extrapolate that to 45 catches for a TE, that's impactful in my opinion.
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RaRa Thomas was in his second year this season. His first year he had mediocre production.
Since he's in his second year here (or was) let's just take him out of the discussion that seems to be around immediate impact players. Although he did contribute immediately last year.
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Colbie Young had 11 catches this year before his issues
CFB Stats words it as 11 plays, but that number seems low, I have to assume they mean 11 receptions or 11 targets. CFB Stats is unclear. But, in those 11 "plays" he accounted for 149 yards and two TD's. Because it was spread out over 5 games, it doesn't seem impactful. But in my opinion, 150 yards and two TD's in 11 plays is the hallmark of an impact receiver. That's superstar numbers, and who knows how impactful he would have been if he got to play the whole season, given our WR room woes.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:50 pm to LegendInMyMind
You can see what I mean. I think we are all fricked there.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:59 pm to JayAg
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You can see what I mean. I think we are all fricked there.
It'll lead to having to dumb down systems and lower standards. The overall quality of play will suffer. It already is suffering, but is just being naively passed off as "parity".
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 6:00 pm
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