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re: Whose under more pressure- Saban or Richt?

Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17733 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:32 pm to
So who wins and why

Bama
Front 7 win game in a mud bowl
14-7 Tide
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:37 pm to
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Nobody except a few crazy talk show and internet Bama fans will be talking about firing Saban if he loses tomorrow. You know that but just want to act like all us crazy bammers will be calling for Saban's head if he loses this game. Saban could go 2-10 this season and 90% of Bama fans and the administration wouldn't have one thought of firing the man.


and the same can be said for Georgia


I don't agree. I know UGA has the whole Richt is a great man crowd, but if he goes 4-8 there would be more than 10% of the UGA fanbase clamoring for a change.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:42 pm to
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He loses this game and it is just another in a long line of failures on the big stage with few if any victories.


Just not true.



I don't mean he has never won a big game. I mean he has never been able to win that one extra game to get UGA to the big stage (national title game). He always loses a game he shouldn't or gets beat in a big game when winning that game would push UGA to the next level. Look the man is a very good coach, but even UGA fans have to admit there is just something holding him back from taking UGA to where Bama has been the last 8 years. Do any of you honestly think Saban couldn't have come to UGA 8 years ago and had similar success to what he has had at Bama?
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26090 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:50 pm to
From a coaching perspective, I think there is more pressure on Richt. Good guy, but that only gets you so far if you can't find a way to win the big ones. And yes, that blackout game in '08 was terrible. Saban, right or wrong, will write his own ticket where ever he wants to be regardless of what happens this year at Bama. The same cannot be said for Richt, IMO.

For this season though, the pressure is on Bama for tomorrow. This is arguably an elimination game for them. Win, they are still alive in the west. Lose, they are likely done (pending Ole Miss and LSU don't crumble which is possible). In the scenario Bama loses tomorrow, we'll get to see if the coaching staff and players are worth their salt being out of contention so early in the season.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:51 pm to
Bama, because Bama.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:52 pm to
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As far as game pressure versus job pressure, Mark's collar is tightening as we post.


I disagree. CMR just has to play a good game. If he avoids a beatdown he's fine. Saban has to win. Pressure is on Saban.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22041 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:53 pm to
Pressure's on Georgia. If you guys can't do it now, with Bama down below its recent trend, and with the east just begging to be taken, when will you do it?

Saban has a doomsday worth of goodwill built up. Guy is untouchable.

ETA: But to that point, Georgia's still in contention. But you guys will never mentally arrive at the top if you can't win this type of game.
This post was edited on 10/2/15 at 12:56 pm
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:54 pm to
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Saban has to win.


Describes every Saturday, no more or less pressure this week.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26090 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:57 pm to
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Describes every Saturday, no more or less pressure this week.


So if Bama loses, you think they are still in contention for the West?
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
3907 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:00 pm to
Richt by a mile. Even with a loss, Bama backs in the new playoff, becoming the first team in with two losses.

See 2011,2012 and 2014 seasons for validation.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:00 pm to
What does that have to do with these coaches relative to pressure? Didn't you guys win a NC with two losses?
Posted by MoreLawdawg
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2014
232 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:17 pm to
Richt. And it's not close.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:20 pm to
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Whose under more pressure- Saban or Richt?




bert-butches seat cushion...
Posted by Uncle Luke
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
439 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:22 pm to
Pressure is on Bama, big time. If they drop this game to Georgia, almost no chance of winning the league and making the playoff. Georgia can drop this game, win out, and still get in. Tide has there back against the wall and see this as a must win.
Posted by athens-ga
athens, ga
Member since Jun 2013
1298 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 2:49 pm to
the correct answer is both are under pressure, but both are strong in their positions and will continue to be so.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31128 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:05 pm to
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Do any of you honestly think Saban couldn't have come to UGA 8 years ago and had similar success to what he has had at Bama?
I absolutely think he could have had equal success at UGA.
Posted by Jebeco
Clear Lake City, TX
Member since Jul 2014
3292 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:16 pm to
Saban has tons of equity. He will be fine.
Posted by PortlyDawg
GA
Member since Aug 2011
2540 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:17 pm to
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Georgia's still in contention. But you guys will never mentally arrive at the top if you can't win this type of game.


I don't disagree with this at all. However, this game is not a make or break for the program (or even the season), though a win would certainly propel both.
Posted by PortlyDawg
GA
Member since Aug 2011
2540 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:21 pm to
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The question is specific to the HCs, stupid really.


I follow. I was thinking about the coaches as a manifestation of their respective programs, which they are.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:27 pm to
I'm pretty sure you're not under much pressure of you're the reigning sec champ. You may be under pressure if your program has 2 sec titles in over 3 decades.
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