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re: Who will win the SEC first: Mullen or Orgeron?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:02 pm to meansonny
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:02 pm to meansonny
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Don't get me wrong. A winning conference record at Miss St is pretty danged good. But don't pretend like it never happened.
Agreed, I was just inserting this before Florida fans chimed in.
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:10 pm to meansonny
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You will find at least two separate 9 seasons stretches with a winning conference record before Pearl Harbor.
Holy nitpick Batman. Just say Mullen did what nobody else has ever done at State and be done with it. You just look like a hater at this point. Mullen in that head bigly.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:21 pm to GatorBait24
He is not the best coach in Mississippi State history. He did well, but he had advantages that no other coaches that came before him had at MSU. The SEC money he got separated him from every nonconference cupcake that he made sure to schedule every single year which made it easier to go to bowl games like he did. All he had to do is win the 4 nonconference games every year and beat Kentucky and whoever else was down in the sec that year and go to a bowl. He averaged about 3.5 SEC wins a year. That is still good by MSU standards and he is a good coach. He just isn’t elite and never will be no matter where he goes.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:27 pm to peepingcrxxms
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e is not the best coach in Mississippi State history. He did well, but he had advantages that no other coaches that came before him had at MSU. The SEC money he got separated him from every nonconference cupcake that he made sure to schedule every single year which made it easier to go to bowl games like he did. All he had to do is win the 4 nonconference games every year and beat Kentucky and whoever else was down in the sec that year and go to a bowl. He averaged about 3.5 SEC wins a year. That is still good by MSU standards and he is a good coach. He just isn’t elite and never will be no matter where he goes.
Okay while I respect your opinion, he’s got the best winning percentage of any coach in your history. Wins are what really matter if the other coaches weren’t smart enough to do what he did that’s on them. He took you to levels none of your other coaches did and that’s a fact. Also never is a long time. He’s still in his 40’s, anything is possible and when you make definite statements like he’ll never be elite, people like Dabo usually go and make you look stupid eventually.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:30 pm to momentoftruth87
The Ogre because he can recruit with the big boys.
Cousin Eddie is too weird and awkward to be more than an average recruiter. Dispite being a good coach, he'll always be held back by his personality.
Cousin Eddie is too weird and awkward to be more than an average recruiter. Dispite being a good coach, he'll always be held back by his personality.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:32 pm to momentoftruth87
Mullen because it's just an easier road.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:34 pm to so_comfort
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Cousin Eddie is too weird and awkward to be more than an average recruiter. Dispite being a good coach, he'll always be held back by his personality
If all it took to win championships were recruiting then Muschamp would still be in Gainesville. It takes recruiting and development big guy.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:34 pm to GatorBait24
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Serious question? He’s the best coach in Mississippi State history, and won 10 games and a New Year’s Day Bowl by three TD’s in year one with a 4 win team
While losing to Missouri and Kentucky at home. Florida fans keep forgetting.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:35 pm to momentoftruth87
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I'm not an LSU fan bub, so you aren't insulting me with the yaw yaw stuff or your comment
You seem pretty insulted tbh.
This guy said "bub"...
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:37 pm to DawgTired
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While losing to Missouri and Kentucky at home. Florida fans keep forgetting.
He’s not allowed to have a couple bad games? Remind me again how Kirby’s first year went? A loss to Butch and Vandy, and beating Mighty Nichols by 2. I’ll take Mullen’s year one any day.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:49 pm to DawgTired
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While losing to Missouri and Kentucky at home. Florida fans keep forgetting.
Oh the irony. Y'all lost at home to Vandy and Butch Jones in year 1 of Kirby. Didn't think that one through, huh?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:53 pm to GatorBait24
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Remind me again how Kirby’s first year went?
Yes. 2016 where the only senior worth a damn was a grad transfer that Kirby brought with him. Factually, the 3 best seniors (best is relative) were all grad transfers.
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I’ll take Mullen’s year one any day.
I can agree with that. Mullen's first season was strong by several measures (weak by a few as well). It went better than Kirby except for the recruiting class.
Do you think kirby's first 2 recruiting classes are better than Mullens?
What has a bigger impact on your 2019? The 2018 season or prior years recruiting classes?
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:59 pm to meansonny
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o you think kirby's first 2 recruiting classes are better than Mullens? What has a bigger impact on your 2019? The 2018 season or prior years recruiting classes?
I have no idea I’ll tell you in a couple years on paper there is no question Georgia is bringing in more talent. However it matters what you do with that talent once it’s on campus. Ask me again in two years, Dabo has showed there is more than one way to skin a cat. If we can stay in the top 5-10 consistently I like Mullen’s chances of developing enough talent to beat you guys most years. That’s just my opinion though.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:08 pm to GatorBait24
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Okay while I respect your opinion, he’s got the best winning percentage of any coach in your history.
Incorrect. That would be Allyn McKeen. Nice try though bro!
Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:30 pm to BhamBlazeDog
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ect. That would be Allyn McKeen. Nice try though bro!
1939-1948
Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:32 pm to GatorBait24
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any coach in your history.
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1939-1948
History.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:33 pm to GatorBait24
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he’s got the best winning percentage of any coach in your histor
False.
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He took you to levels none of your other coaches did and that’s a fact.
False. If you are making this statement based on our 5 straight weeks of being ranked #1 in the polls, well, that's not really a "level". That's an oddity that is based on a lot of things, most notably none of the blue bloods having a good season. I think winning a division title is a "level" that only 1 coach has taken us to.
Mullen is a good coach. He is organized, he understands the college game, and he is exceptionally good at recognizing potential talent and coaching it up to get the best out of players.
His game day coaching sucks, and his offense will always hold him back. Some day soon, the run-based spread option will go the way of the wishbone, and I have no idea what Mullen will turn to at that point.
I predicted 10 wins for UF this season, just based on the schedule. The only thing Mullen did that impressed me from a gameday coaching perspective was the comeback against USC....that was a first for him, so maybe he is finally learning something.
But until he wins a big game, with a division title on the line or something like that, I just don't think he is elite.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:34 pm to Gatorbait2008
quote:Ole Miss beat way more ranked teams including Alabama and won a Sugar Bowl while Mullen was at State.
Just see Ole Miss and Miss State work from the two and it isn't even debatable
Are you high?
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:38 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Ole Miss beat way more ranked teams including Alabama and won a Sugar Bowl while Mullen was at State.
He was talking about comparing Orgeron at UMiss to Mullen at State.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:52 pm to BhamBlazeDog
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History
You’re right I didn’t scroll that far and that’s on me, however I’m not sure bragging about a coach from WW2 is really the route I’d take. Mullen is still the best.
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