re: Who else thinks the season starts on time?

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We aren't going to get to a death toll to justify shutting down the economy in my opinion

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This is a little shortsighted and demonstrates a little temporary ignorance of history.

I agree that there is a balancing act here between trying to save lives and not ruining the economy.

However, the effects of this thing hitting us in full force - with no protective measures in place - would most certainly have caused significant damage to the economy as well. Combine that with the fact that we were most likely headed for a recession before this happened, and it’s not a simple binary choice.

The pandemic was going to frick the economy either way. The question is how long we can keep the current pace up, and what are the ramifications if we let up too soon. Unfortunately the politicians in charge don’t even understand these questions to begin with, so we are fricked either way. We will most likely get a ruined economy and a bunch of unnecessary deaths, and we will like it.

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fear mongering going on throughout this country and the media

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The fear mongering is not the cause of the current policies. It’s delusional to think otherwise. We have a Republican president. If this were a democrat conspiracy, he wouldn’t play ball.
The greedy assholes running the NFL and NBA also assuredly don’t give a shite about the media.

These practices were always an inevitability in this pandemic. Their acceleration by the executive branch was an attempt at mitigation.

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That isn’t gonna be in good shape until covid is properly dealt with

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How is it not being properly dealt with? Most states have been in isolation for 6+ weeks now. Hospitals are dead. Temporary hospitals built are being closed. The whole point of social distancing wasn't to eliminate the virus. It was meant to get numbers down to manageable numbers so the hospitals weren't overwhelmed. That has more than been accomplished. A vaccine isn't going to realistically be able to be produced for another year.

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Trying to ignore covid and pretend everything is fine isn’t an effective strategy. It’s just kicking a can of shite down the street spreading shite everywhere.

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No one is completely ignoring covid. stop being so dramatic. There is a huge grey area between a shutdown like we've been living and ignoring the virus completely. Stop trying to make everything so black and white.

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Covid exacerbates underlying conditions.

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So does the flu and a variety of other illnesses. My grandfather went to the hospital for congestive heart failure last year. He ended up contracting pneumonia, which is what ultimately killed him. That doesn't mean his death was caused by pneumonia. He was going to die regardless based on the condition he was in when he got there. When you are old and have underlying conditions, a lot of things that otherwise wouldn't kill you, do. That doesn't give said illnesses cause to make everyone take the same exact method of containment.

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Nearly half of our adult nation has an underlying condition.

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no they don't, at least not those known to have a correlation to causing complication for virus like COVID-19, the flu, etc. About 40% have some sort of chronic health condition, but that could be anything from diabetes to arthritis

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math and science

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That's where you lost them. It's like saying "I don't know why everyone evacuated the state because of a hurricane, not that many people died!"

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Isn't that basically a racial slur these days?

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No, but of course you want to play the role of a victim of racism. The same guy who cries about politics to deflect is now crying about something else to deflect. This really is right out of the trump playbook of deflection in press conferences.

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The irony dripping off of this comment is amazing. You need to stop

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Explain the irony. Did you miss his first post to me? Yet I am not claiming to be a victim of verbal assault, nor am I whining about politics.

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No, but of course you want to play the role of a victim of racism. The same guy who cries about politics to deflect is now crying about something else to deflect. This really is right out of the trump playbook of deflection in press conferences.

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It's all politics for some people I guess.

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More deflection. You literally think any criticism towards the current president is unwarranted just because "politics". Do you feel that way about all presidents, or just republican ones?

Why do you think government and politics are the same thing? Because they arent.

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It's funny because I never said anything about the president, nor did I respond to anything about him. I only pointed out you calling people "reds".

But you are sure on the case!



What exactly am I deflecting from again?

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And you avoided the point I just made. You have been crying "politics" whenever Trump gets criticized for months now, and you came into this thread with a verbal attack about "politics". Thats what you are deflecting about at the moment. I asked you 2 questions about the flaws of your whines about "politics" in the post you just quoted, and you provided no answer.

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So you're saying you constantly bring up politics and the president in these discussions because you are incapable of just talking about the issue itself?

One of your questions I thought was more a statement/claim and funny.

As for the other, I would say it's civics and politics that are different, but you aren't talking about civics.