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re: Who be da better running back
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:26 pm to therick711
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:26 pm to therick711
quote:LF vs SECE(UF & UK)...42 for 180yds...3tds
he played in the SEC lEast,
Chubb vs SECW(Aub & Ark)...49 for 346yds...4tds
LF vs AU,ARK,UF&UK...57 for 231yds...4tds
Chubb vs AU,ARK,UF&UK...83 for 672yds...6tds
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:27 pm to guschamp84
Elliot
Chubb
Fournette
Fournette has the highest ceiling of the three though. No back in the country has his combo of size, speed, and power. Also, anyone trying to claim he lacks vision or quickness is just plain stupid.
He needs to develop his stiff arm though. Too many times he'd have a tackler off balance only to lunge and get him by the ankles. More awareness and better use of his hands will have him breaking more of those tackles.
Chubb
Fournette
Fournette has the highest ceiling of the three though. No back in the country has his combo of size, speed, and power. Also, anyone trying to claim he lacks vision or quickness is just plain stupid.
He needs to develop his stiff arm though. Too many times he'd have a tackler off balance only to lunge and get him by the ankles. More awareness and better use of his hands will have him breaking more of those tackles.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:28 pm to guschamp84
Right now?
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1 Ezekiel Elliott
2 Nick Chubb
3 Leonard Fournette
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:28 pm to dallasga6
There is a cumulative effect of playing in the West that doesn't exist in the lEast that isn't captured by that type of segregation (no Ole Miss) of stats.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:30 pm to LSUNV
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LSUNV
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Some of you idiots actually believe Chubb is better is the sad part
bunch of idiots on here. luckily you are here to remind everyone that despite having superior stats in literally every single meaningful way, chubb is inferior to fournette.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:30 pm to therick711
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just that I think Richt gives his main guy more touches on average.
This year he did because:
1.) we didn't have much of a choice; Mason wasn't going to win the games on his own and our run game was working.
and
2.) Chubb consistently carried the ball 30 and 40 times a game in high school. The kid is a total freak athlete. Incredibly strong and fast for his age. He broke Thomas Brown's pound-for-pound weight record his first summer here (at 190 lbs, Brown could bench 470, clean 347, and squat 610 for a 7.55 body index).
Next year, with a healthy Michel and Marshall, Chubb won't be carrying the team as much. He'll still be the feature guy but not to this year's extent.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:31 pm to RT1941
I think Fournette's only average area is his vision/decision making on cuts and I think whats scary is he improved on it every game.
He had the vision in HS and the college game is slowing down for him every week.
He has crazy moves and balance, but often times he prefers to plow over defenders. Go watch his spin move from the UF game. Also, once he gets an opening, he's got better speed than either of those other two.
He's a smart kid, works hard, and improved all year due to those things. I imagine he'll be special next year, especially if our OL comes back and/or we can put together any passing game whatsoever.
All 3 are great backs.
He had the vision in HS and the college game is slowing down for him every week.
He has crazy moves and balance, but often times he prefers to plow over defenders. Go watch his spin move from the UF game. Also, once he gets an opening, he's got better speed than either of those other two.
He's a smart kid, works hard, and improved all year due to those things. I imagine he'll be special next year, especially if our OL comes back and/or we can put together any passing game whatsoever.
All 3 are great backs.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:31 pm to therick711
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There is a cumulative effect of playing in the West that doesn't exist in the lEas
Didn't we debunk the whole "West is >>>>>>>>> East" myth during the bowl season?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:32 pm to therick711
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There is a cumulative effect of playing in the West that doesn't exist in the lEast that isn't captured by that type of segregation (no Ole Miss) of stats.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:32 pm to guschamp84
Its always good to have a chubby
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:33 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Just because it's a zoneblocking scheme, doesn't mean a player isn't running right into linebackers. There are still lanes in a zoneblocking scheme. It's about choosing the right one (and time) to cut back into. I'm a Texans fan who watches Arian Foster every week. I know what a good zone running back looks like.
I still don't buy it based solely on what you have said and continue to say. Maybe I'm wrong though. Here's a good way to find out.
Study this list:
Terrell Davis
Olandis Gary
Arian Foster
CJ Anderson
Mike Anderson
Ron Dayne
Ricky Williams
Ronnie Brown
Gerald Riggs Jr.
Barry Foster
Willie Parker
Jamal Anderson
James White
LaMichael James
Justin Forsett
Kevin Smith
Matt Forte
Please rank these backs by vision and differentiate them meaningfully in what attributes of a good zone running back are their strengths. Quantify.
Thanks.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:33 pm to therick711
I'm done...outta one side of your mouth you say LF doesn't get enough carries in LSU's system. Then outta the other side you say there's some kind of cumulative effect by playing SECW defenses. EL-O-EL, you can't have it both ways...later...
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:33 pm to Team Vote
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They're all sick
Agreed
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Elliot had the best line blocking for him though.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:33 pm to tylerdurden24
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Didn't we debunk the whole "West is >>>>>>>>> East" myth during the bowl season?
Actually we reinforced it by playing each other in the regular season. What we proved in the bowl season is the lower tier bowls have weaker competition.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:34 pm to guschamp84
Elliott.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:35 pm to dallasga6
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I'm done...outta one side of your mouth you say LF doesn't get enough carries in LSU's system. Then outta the other side you say there's some kind of cumulative effect by playing SECW defenses. EL-O-EL, you can't have it both ways...later...
Please, you can't read. All I told Joeyb was that you could make a case for Fournette. I didn't even pick him and have said that I think Chubb is great. I think over time Fournette will overtake him, but that Chubb will still be good (in other words, I don't think Chubb will regress, just that Leonard's has a higher ceiling).
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:36 pm to therick711
I watch very little proball these days. There about three guys on that list who I would be comfortable evaluating.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:36 pm to therick711
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Objectively, Chubb isn't necessarily the right pick if you want to look at all factors. His production can be discounted objectively because Georgia's offense as a whole was better, he played in the SEC lEast
I had this convo with one of your other bengal retards. JWilliams put up similar numbers to Fournette with a similar shitty offense surrounding him in the SECW in 2013. You tards just love to throw out any excuse possible of why LF ran for an SEC 17th place 4.78 yards per carry against SEC competition. 16th for RBs. Marhsall averaged over a half yard more per carry against the SEC. quote:That's the best you got? Insulting Auburn's speed sweep back? The guy who averaged less than 5 carries a game?
That being said, time will tell. Both are great, but neither are Corey Grant.
How pathetic. Not as pathetic as LSU's offense in JHS last year tho. O-fer on third downs? Ouch. This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:37 pm to SwaggerCopter
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I watch very little proball these days. There about three guys on that list who I would be comfortable evaluating.
All of those guys played in college. Hell rank the guys you know. I'd love to see it.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:38 pm to joeyb147
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That's the best you got? Insulting Auburn's speed sweep back? The guy who averaged less than 5 carries a game?
I thought you would remember our conversation about Bucannon. My problem is I always try to have fun with you and underestimate how short your memory is and how thin your humorless skin is.
Are you a goldfish that doesn't remember anything that happened more than a day ago or do you get the reference now?
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 4:40 pm
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