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re: Who are the best non-"University of _________" state schools in the country?
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:12 pm to Socratics
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:12 pm to Socratics
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How the hell is A&M and Auburn behind FSU in total bowl appearances when you guys had like a 50 year head start on us?
It's a fair question.
Auburn has had some great decades and some downright terrible ones. AU dominated in the late 1800's and early 1900's up to about 1920 or so but sucked in the 20's after Donahue left and were plain godawful in the late 30's through the 40's until Coach Jordan arrived in '51.
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:29 pm to texashorn
The Aggies actually added those two fake titles the year they joined the SEC. They also claim a "share" of a big 12 championship lol. It truly is sad...
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:38 pm to Sgt Deds
well...we can all agree that Tx A&M is the biggest and best A&M school out there...barely nudging out Florida A&M in football...and just ahead of Prairie View in academics.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:39 pm to Sgt Deds
quote:jelly?
They also claim a "share" of a big 12 championship lol.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:40 pm to Socratics
quote:because there werent many bowl games in those first 50 years?
How the hell is A&M and Auburn behind FSU in total bowl appearances when you guys had like a 50 year head start on us?
Posted on 7/25/16 at 6:22 pm to td01241
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I don't see why y'all are so burnt up about being the 2nd school in a huge state. There is no shame in being behind UT.
Richt Syndrome...ain't nothing wrong with being second...hell Georgia fans had been enjoying it for the last decade
Posted on 7/25/16 at 6:35 pm to Sgt Deds
When you go unscored upon and undefeated in a season you can claim whatever you want that year.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 6:46 pm to WestCoastAg
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jelly?
How is that possible though when y'all didn't even play in the Big 12 title game in 2010?
Posted on 7/25/16 at 6:50 pm to anc
Penn state
Florida state
Louisiana state
Auburn
Clemson
Southern cal
Ohio state
Florida state
Louisiana state
Auburn
Clemson
Southern cal
Ohio state
Posted on 7/25/16 at 7:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You have to list these schools based on endowment first, because that's usually how most publications rate these polls. Auburn, Clemson, Florida State, and Virginia Tech are not big money schools. They are in the same fold as Texas Tech, ASU, Mississippi State, and NC State.
Michigan State, and GT have very deep pockets.
Texas A&M is on another level of wealth.
Michigan State, and GT have very deep pockets.
Texas A&M is on another level of wealth.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 8:55 pm to Reservoir dawg
Texas AM is the flagship university of the Texas AM university system in Texas which includes like 11 other campuses.
Uni of Texas is the flagship of the Uni of Texas university system.
The flagship is the main campus in a university system. If two universities are not in the same system, it is not accurate to say one is the flagship in the state but not the other.
Many states only have one university system so this isn't an issue. Generally the largest university that is also one of the oldest is the flagship, at least on the east coast. Sometimes the landgrant ends up being the flagship as well, the flagship got land grant money after being established for several decades. University of Maryland - College Park is an example of this.
California is another one with multiple systems.
Uni of Texas is the flagship of the Uni of Texas university system.
The flagship is the main campus in a university system. If two universities are not in the same system, it is not accurate to say one is the flagship in the state but not the other.
Many states only have one university system so this isn't an issue. Generally the largest university that is also one of the oldest is the flagship, at least on the east coast. Sometimes the landgrant ends up being the flagship as well, the flagship got land grant money after being established for several decades. University of Maryland - College Park is an example of this.
California is another one with multiple systems.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:02 pm to Reservoir dawg
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Auburn, Clemson, Florida State, and Virginia Tech are not big money schools.
I question that. Clemson stadium and facilities are about as good as it gets and this is despite being a much smaller university compared to other large state schools.
i don't thnk endowment money is used on athletics.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:05 pm to AlabamaAlum07
quote:we dont claim the title. we just happened to put the year up before we put the "division" tag under and someone took a picture of it. we won a share of the south with like 2 other schools in 2010 and put it on the wall just like OM did for 2003
How is that possible though when y'all didn't even play in the Big 12 title game in 2010?
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:48 pm to WestCoastAg
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we dont claim the title. we just happened to put the year up before we put the "division" tag under and someone took a picture of it.
Y'all changed the sign over the summer then added the explanation in late September, well after football season started, because it became a national joke.
Propaganda attempt denied.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:49 pm to Tillman
You are somewhat correct.
UTex-Austin and Texas A&M University in College Station are the flagships of their respective systems. Additionally, both universities, at present, remain the only flagships (aka Tier One public universities) of the state. Again, that will likely change soon,
senate.state.tx.us, p. 9:
It's not surprising that the majority of posters on a sports message board--comprised mostly of schools from small states--don't understand the differing nomenclature used for higher education logistics in a behemoth state like Texas.
UTex-Austin and Texas A&M University in College Station are the flagships of their respective systems. Additionally, both universities, at present, remain the only flagships (aka Tier One public universities) of the state. Again, that will likely change soon,
senate.state.tx.us, p. 9:
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The Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board (THECB) categorizes Texas four-year public universities in five categories, summarized in Table 7. The THECB recognizes two research universities, which are the “flagship” institutions of the state: Texas A&M and UT Austin.
The THECB recognizes seven emerging research universities:
• Texas Tech
• University of Houston
• University of North Texas
• UT Arlington
• UT Dallas
• UT El Paso
• UT San Antonio
It's not surprising that the majority of posters on a sports message board--comprised mostly of schools from small states--don't understand the differing nomenclature used for higher education logistics in a behemoth state like Texas.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:49 pm to texashorn
Oh look you're talking about A&M
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:50 pm to texag7
Didn't expect that to be the post from this thread that got him to come out
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:52 pm to WestCoastAg
I don't understand why Ags don't ignore his posts, all together.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:54 pm to EKG
I find it a fascinating case study in human sociology
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:21 pm to Tillman
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i don't thnk endowment money is used on athletics.
every single athletic scholarship at Stanford comes from an endowment..every one in every sport.
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