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re: Which SEC teams claim the most bogus national championships - now with Texas and Oklahoma
Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:25 pm to 3down10
Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:25 pm to 3down10
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This is a ranking of all SEC teams, not LSU fans crying about Alabama.
Aren’t you the one th at cores when we discuss 2019 LSU? You’re the one that hard legs Nebraska?
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:34 pm to 3down10
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Only AP and Coaches Polls are valid in this era.
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. Only UCF and USCw are lame enough to claim fake titles in this era.
I'm pretty sure USC qualifies here since they were awarded by the AP
Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:46 pm to jonnyanony
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I'm pretty sure USC qualifies here since they were awarded by the AP
It happened in the BCS era. The AP poll is no longer valid in that era, only BCS Championships.
LSU is the ONLY national champion of that year.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:55 pm to dstone12
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Aren’t you the one th at cores when we discuss 2019 LSU? You’re the one that hard legs Nebraska?
You mean when discussing which team is the all time best in college football history?
Yes, that is still 1995 Nebraska. Unlike 2019 LSU, they also played defense. 1995 Nebraska dominated from week 1 until the end.
Margin of victory tells the story.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 6:15 pm to BigScoreboard
1941 agree no claim to a natty...but the reason its an issue is in the major bowls bama won..and the rest of top 5 lost or did not play thus only Victor standing..look it up
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 6/29/24 at 6:28 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I wonder why LSU never claimed 1908
We got some serious disrespect in 1936.
Unlike Minnesota, we were undefeated all season.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 6:31 pm to BigScoreboard
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Alabama can't say anything about anybody as long as they claim 1941.
Well I can as long as I'm not delusional enough to think 1941 is legit
Posted on 6/29/24 at 6:33 pm to 3down10
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Titles before 1936 things are pretty much wide open. Undefeated seasons, math formulas(that were developed before 1950), rose bowl wins, whatever. It's pretty difficult to have a bogus claim in this era(spoiler: Still happens).
quite the opposite actually. There’s no such thing as a legit national title claim before 1936.
everything else i agree with
Posted on 6/29/24 at 7:13 pm to 3down10
OU has 17 titles if we use bama math.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 7:57 pm to TN Tygah
We won each of them fairly!!
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:16 pm to dstone12
I've always found it amusing that LSU fans need to write a multi-page dissertation about Alabama's national titles.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:26 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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quite the opposite actually. There’s no such thing as a legit national title claim before 1936.
everything else i agree with
It's fair to say that, as nobody really thought of national championships until Knute Rockne and Notre Dame started claiming them off a math ranking. And then just a few years later the AP was formed and that is when it kind of started.
But it started with math polls in that era, and Notre Dame retroactively claimed multiple titles and it became the norm for that era.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:50 pm to 3down10
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9. Tennessee: 6 claims, 1938, 1940, 1950, 1967 are bogus. 66% bogus claims.
Not only should we claim all those, we should claim 1939 as well. Last team to go un scored upon.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:50 pm to Boomer00
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OU has 17 titles if we use bama math.
No, you don't. If OU claimed 17 titles, you'd have 8 legit(you can add undefeated 1915), and 9 bogus claims.
And you'd drop from #1 in the rankings down below A&M.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:55 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Not only should we claim all those, we should claim 1939 as well. Last team to go un scored upon.
In 1939, Texas A&M was also undefeated and had more than twice as many votes for 1st place.
You are literally awarding yourself national championships.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:58 pm to 3down10
Sorry, but claiming a title where you lost to the team you split titles with because they voted pre bowl as non bogus, but then claiming Georgia's 40's title as bogus when we were named no. 1 in the most recognized polls before the AP poll had gained clout is kind of shady.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 9:04 pm to 3down10
I have a pretty open mind on pre-BCS national championships. It was a pretty subjective, almost unofficial designation anyway. In my mind, if you went undefeated or were one of a few 1-loss teams in a year with no undefeated teams, I think it’s okay. 1941 Alabama is the only egregious claim I can think of off the top of my head, but I’m sure there’s others.
2003 USC and 2017 UCF are laughable to me, though. BCS/CFP era is simple: you either won the national championship game or you didn’t. If you didn’t win the national championship game, you were not national champions.
2003 USC and 2017 UCF are laughable to me, though. BCS/CFP era is simple: you either won the national championship game or you didn’t. If you didn’t win the national championship game, you were not national champions.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 9:10 pm to koreandawg
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Sorry, but claiming a title where you lost to the team you split titles with because they voted pre bowl as non bogus, but then claiming Georgia's 40's title as bogus when we were named no. 1 in the most recognized polls before the AP poll had gained clout is kind of shady.
So, let me get this straight.
You think a team can be awarded a national championship at the start of December. Then a month later, that team goes and plays in a bowl game that everyone knows does not count on the official records, and you think they should be stripped of their championship because of a loss?
Georgia finished #2 in the AP poll, not #1. That's the fact of the matter.
Not all good teams are national championship teams, sorry.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 9:51 pm to 3down10
It should be noted that State is the reason that Tennessee’s 1950 NC claim is bogus. A 7-0 loss to State was their only blemish that year. Whiny General Neyland vowed to never bring a Tennessee team to Scott Field. A true to his word, TN-State played a few games in MEM over the years but it was 1988 before another Volunteer team graced the hollowed green of Scott Field.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:18 pm to rtr23242526
in the major bowls bama won..and the rest of top 5 lost or did not play thus only Victor standing..look it up
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I get that the bowl win lifted you in the Houlgate, but both AP and UPI stopped polling at the end of the regular season, when Bama was 8-2.
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I get that the bowl win lifted you in the Houlgate, but both AP and UPI stopped polling at the end of the regular season, when Bama was 8-2.
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