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re: Which previous or current title format was/is the best?
Posted on 1/23/25 at 2:55 pm to Che Boludo
Posted on 1/23/25 at 2:55 pm to Che Boludo
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bye weeks appeared to be BAD for the teams.
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Coaches have mixed opinions on that
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The Conf Championship games proved worse, especially the loser who played in first round
Worse for the loser of the ACC CG yes I’d agree. And you could say worse for Clemson too, even though they won that game, they got dragged by Texas.
But it is quite telling that all four bye teams got bounced immediately. Skrayper has a point there.
The loser of the Big ten title game was Penn state and even though they had a shite schedule in the playoffs, at least they advanced.
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 3:13 pm to skrayper
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 3:17 pm to Rohan Gravy
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But why not 6?
I would violently support either 6 or 8 much more than 4 or 12. But hold on to your hat because I'll bet you 16 is coming.
Posted on 1/23/25 at 3:44 pm to skrayper
My order:
1. 12-team playoff - it was a lot of fun this year, and doesn't leave out any deserving team. It needs tweaks but its much better than G5 teams having to be good for multiple seasons to get a shot. Plus it means 12 teams had a "good season" which is good for the sport.
2. BCS - Standalone title game - picked a winner that was hard to dispute, and with all of the BCS bowls it meant 10 teams had a good season which was healthy for the sport. Only downside was leaving out undefeated teams.
3. Bowl Coalition / Bowl Alliance / BCS - no standalone title game (bowl games rotated to host the title game) - same as above, just with two less teams having a good season
4. Voter polls*, finalized after bowls - this format was fun because it allowed for multiple teams to claim a title. Also this format made the bowls relevant which meant that many programs could feel like they had a good season. Not as good as BCS because titles were disputed.
5. 4-team playoff - competing teams determined by committee - worst in my lifetime, this model killed the value of bowls completely and made it so only four teams every year had a good season which was terrible for the sport. Many of the problems we have in the sport today are because of this format's legacy.
6. Voter polls*, finalized prior to bowls - was before my lifetime, just seems like a system where the national title didn't matter. In retrospect it seems like it made the bowls useless which makes it worse than what came after but I don't know I didn't live it.
1. 12-team playoff - it was a lot of fun this year, and doesn't leave out any deserving team. It needs tweaks but its much better than G5 teams having to be good for multiple seasons to get a shot. Plus it means 12 teams had a "good season" which is good for the sport.
2. BCS - Standalone title game - picked a winner that was hard to dispute, and with all of the BCS bowls it meant 10 teams had a good season which was healthy for the sport. Only downside was leaving out undefeated teams.
3. Bowl Coalition / Bowl Alliance / BCS - no standalone title game (bowl games rotated to host the title game) - same as above, just with two less teams having a good season
4. Voter polls*, finalized after bowls - this format was fun because it allowed for multiple teams to claim a title. Also this format made the bowls relevant which meant that many programs could feel like they had a good season. Not as good as BCS because titles were disputed.
5. 4-team playoff - competing teams determined by committee - worst in my lifetime, this model killed the value of bowls completely and made it so only four teams every year had a good season which was terrible for the sport. Many of the problems we have in the sport today are because of this format's legacy.
6. Voter polls*, finalized prior to bowls - was before my lifetime, just seems like a system where the national title didn't matter. In retrospect it seems like it made the bowls useless which makes it worse than what came after but I don't know I didn't live it.
Posted on 1/23/25 at 3:48 pm to skrayper
I've never seen so many terrible takes in 1 thread.
Posted on 1/23/25 at 3:53 pm to TexasOnTop
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I've never seen so many terrible takes in 1 thread.
Isn't that what you're here for?
Posted on 1/23/25 at 3:59 pm to skrayper
Looking back on it, the BCS was the best
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:19 am to jonnyanony
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BCS was fine, 4-team was fine, expansion could have been fine if they'd just gone to 8 and used a computer again.
8 is the magic number imo. Instead we'll just expand to 20+
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:28 am to skrayper
Noo absolutely not, we are here bc of the old bowl system. 98 03 04 are glaring reminders of why this system doesn’t work. Should’ve never poached the big 12. Have a 6 team playoff all p5 champs and best go5/nd. But everyone was too greedy for this.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 10:34 am to bamabaseballsec
It only matters because people kept placing more and more importance on the national title over conference titles. Used to be national titles were novelties.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 10:36 am to skrayper
12 team playoff and its not even close. But still not a big enough field.
Opinions and human rankings should never determine the champions.
Anyone who “misses the ____” is secretly in fear of competition.
Opinions and human rankings should never determine the champions.
Anyone who “misses the ____” is secretly in fear of competition.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 1:29 pm to skrayper
It only matters because people kept placing more and more importance on the national title over conference titles. Used to be national titles were novelties.
Of course they did if you don’t let undefeated or same record conference teams play it out in a bowl you create the storyline who is the best. And since the sec big ten and whoever already answered the question who is the best in conference the natural shift is who is better amongst all conferences.
Of course they did if you don’t let undefeated or same record conference teams play it out in a bowl you create the storyline who is the best. And since the sec big ten and whoever already answered the question who is the best in conference the natural shift is who is better amongst all conferences.
Posted on 1/26/25 at 4:01 pm to bamameister
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Because the 12-team playoff has become the new DEI of college football.
Awesome!
I forget who said it
But I agree with him
“There has never been more than three teams in any given year that deserved to play for a championship”
It’s all about money
It has nothing to do with fairness
Posted on 1/26/25 at 4:03 pm to Rohan Gravy
quote:Because byes suck.
But why not 6?
Everybody skips over 6
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