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re: Which of the following coaches would you take over Les Miles?

Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:11 am to
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:11 am to
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exactly. The players win in spite of Miles.





fwiw he's kept Saban's grimey hands off of most of our top players. Only really lost out on Collins besides guys we offered ridiculously late like Lacy
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:12 am to
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Steve Spurrier Hasn't won anything in years so no

Kevin Sumlin Hasn't won anything and found a genie in a bottle with JFF. I think I will wait 4 or 5 yrs down the road before I would take him. Everyone thought Gene Chizik was the greatest while Cam was there but when he left he bombed.

Mark Richt No way in hell I would tkae Richt. He is the eastern version of Mack Brown except no MNC.

Dan Mullen Really?

Hugh Freeze Agian what has this guy won?

Bret Bielema Not sure what to make of Bret. I would have to wait and see what he does at Ark. If he can win there he can win anywhere.

Will Muschamp Another one that hasn't won shite

James Franklin I would have to see him at a bigger school or have more success.

Gary Patterson Yes
Urban Meyer frick no
Dabo Swinney No
Brian Kelly No
Jimbo Fisher Hell no

Posted by Shunface
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:17 am to
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Hugh Freeze Agian what has this guy won?


7 games his first year after OM going 2-10 the previous and not winning an SEC game in two years?

Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:18 am to
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exactly. The players win in spite of Miles.

Tbh, I have seen a few times, during games (not speaking of recruiting) when this was the case.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:19 am to
it was a decent season for yalls standards, I'll admit. but lets not forget that 2/3 of those SEC wins were against two fricking terrible teams
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10178 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:20 am to
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7 games his first year after OM going 2-10 the previous and not winning an SEC game in two years?




Is that worth a job at one of the best college football programs in the country and 4+ million a year? I would hope if LSU is in a coaching search we don't have to take gambles on coaches like Freeze.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:23 am to
Steve Spurrier No
Kevin Sumlin yes
Mark Richt yes
Dan Mullen no
Hugh Freeze no
Bret Bielema no
Will Muschamp Yes
James Franklin yes
Gus Malzahn Yes

Gary Patterson yes
Urban Meyer NO
Dabo Swinney yes
Brian Kelly no
Jimbo Fisher NO
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:23 am to
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What's not to love about this guy:

Yeah, I get his point and love that he backs his players (as he should). I think it's his delivery. Reminds me a little of Nutt with all the emotion. I just prefer a less animated, more dry, less talkative HC. Just seems more "in control."
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:23 am to
Sumlin and Spurrier are the only ones. No one else is as good as Les.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10178 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:25 am to
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Tbh, I have seen a few times, during games (not speaking of recruiting) when this was the case.



What team don't? Every winning team has to have good enough players to win. Take all those 5 stars away from Saban and see how many championships he wins. This is just a stupid argument to me.

Damn near every game when LSU steps on the field against Alabama who has the best coach in college football and the best players, LSU has played them close every game but one. I think that's enough proof to me that he's a better coach than anyone else on that list.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:26 am to
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I think that's enough proof to me that he's a better coach than anyone else on that list.


So if Saban and Alabama is the benchmark, why isn't Sumlin's perfect record against the Tide taken in to consideration?
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10178 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:30 am to
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So if Saban and Alabama is the benchmark, why isn't Sumlin's perfect record against the Tide taken in to consideration?




You serious, Clark?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66753 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:33 am to
Any one who says yes to Richt is just bias. The complaints against the two are the same, but Richt has never won a national championship or even been to one.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44394 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:33 am to
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Steve Spurrier Yes
Kevin Sumlin No, but that might change soon
Mark Richt No
Dan Mullen frick no
Hugh Freeze No
Bret Bielema No
Will Muschamp Yes
James Franklin Yes

Gary Patterson Yes
Urban Meyer No
Dabo Swinney Lol
Brian Kelly No
Jimbo Fisher ROFL
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:35 am to
Like I said, I'm not arguing LSU's success. The question was "what coach would I take over Les Miles"? For Arkansas, I just don't think he would be a good fit, and I'm taking out my personal opinion of him.

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What team don't? Every winning team has to have good enough players to win

Many teams don't have the talent and depth to win "in spite of" their coach. There are few teams in the country with the caliber of players as LSU and Alabama.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
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Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:37 am to
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True. I just think most of the good results have more to do with LSU's draw of superior athletes than the head coach, imo.


You don't understand football then. Apply that to Texas. Or USC. Or the Gators during UM's last couple years.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10178 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:37 am to
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r Arkansas, I just don't think he would be a good fit, and I'm taking out my personal opinion of him.



He did a pretty good job at Okla st. I think he could have the same success at Ark.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
78846 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:40 am to
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You don't understand football then


This.
Les just keeps rebuilding and winning.
The more he beats them the better his "resources" are and the "luckier" he is.

Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:42 am to
Bob Simmons players


Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 9:44 am to
quote:

You don't understand football then

Oh, ok.

quote:

He did a pretty good job at Okla st. I think he could have the same success at Ark.

Well, at this point, after Arkansas' last season, I'm sure he would have much success.
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