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Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:14 pm to deeprig9
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When he first came to LSU, and then later to Alabama, there was no unstoppable force in the SEC. No active dynasties. Every year or two, another team was on top. It was easy pickings for him.
If Saban came into the SEC today, in another form, say, "Steve Naban", would he have the same success with Alabama being where they are with Saban in the West, and Georgia being where they are in the East?
Given that Saban isn't "unstoppable" -- hell, it's only been a year since two teams not named "Bama" (or, in your alternate universe, "Maab") played for the SEC title -- I'm not sure what you're getting at. If you're just trying to say that Saban lacked competition when he arrived at LSU, I'm guessing you aren't old enough to remember the SEC of the time? Hell, UT was still a power to be reckoned with then. If you're talking about his Bama run, do you not remember that Florida won two NCs framing Saban's first year, while LSU won the other?
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:17 pm to ReauxlTide222
Nope, he's from memphis
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:30 pm to deeprig9
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If Saban came into the SEC today, in another form, say, "Steve Naban", would he have the same success with Alabama being where they are with Saban in the West, and Georgia being where they are in the East?
What the frick?
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:33 pm to RD Dawg
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Both Tubbs and Fulmer were 2 years away from losing their jobs and Meyer 1 year after.
Those were the direct result of what Saban was building at Bama. 100% exclusively the Auburn firing of Tubs.
Probably 50% UT firing Fat Phil. Florida and Urban Meyer winning 2 national championships in 3 years definitely contributed. 41-17 beat down by a 6 win Bama team in 2007, followed by Bama signing 3/5 of the top players from Tennessee in their 08 class. Hightower and Barrett Jones were huge. Jordan turned out to be a meh player.
The final nail in his coffin was the 2008 game in Neyland where Bama had 45,000 fans in Neyland and delivered the loudest rammer jammer at an away game I've ever heard.
I think Saban not only had a plan on how to restore Bama, but also a plan on how to render Bama's rivals futile.
He did it mostly through recruiting. He has hoarded talent away from other programs. He has taken players that might not be a perfect fit just so they don't sign other places.
Kirby did the same with Fields.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:34 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Barrett Jones isn't from Alabama?!
He is from Memphis. His dad played basketball at Bama.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:02 pm to deeprig9
It doesn’t matter how many different ways you phrase “is Kirby the next Saban?” The answer is still no. This is dumb.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:19 pm to deeprig9
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If Saban came into the SEC today, in another form, say, "Steve Naban", would he have the same success with Alabama being where they are with Saban in the West, and Georgia being where they are in the East?
What does this mean? Are there 2 identical Nick Sabans? What the hell?
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:27 pm to deeprig9
What a bunch of bull crap to try to justify to yourself why Smart is not the next Saban
This post was edited on 1/6/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:30 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Saban is succeeding because he is relentless and demands perfection. He’s perfected the player evaluation and is given anything he needs by the university. It’s the perfect storm to being a consistent winner and no one else has been able to replicate it.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:43 pm to deeprig9
Son, you should be writing children's fiction.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:49 pm to BhamDore
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Both Tubbs and Fulmer were 2 years away from losing their jobs and Meyer 1 year after.
Those were the direct result of what Saban was building at Bama. 100% exclusively the Auburn firing of Tubs.
There is the story that when Saban was hired at Alabama, Tuberville told his staff "guys, we have a problem" or something like that. I wonder if that's so. I bet he thought it, but kind of doubt he actually said it.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:59 pm to BhamDore
Lives next door to Jimmy Sexton.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 4:05 pm to ReauxlTide222
His trolls suck.
2006 Florida
2007 LSU
2008 Florida
2010 Auburn
Georgia just has to deal with Alabama and Kirby keeps crapping his pants.
2006 Florida
2007 LSU
2008 Florida
2010 Auburn
Georgia just has to deal with Alabama and Kirby keeps crapping his pants.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 4:08 pm to BhamDore
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Those were the direct result of what Saban was building at Bama
What?Fulmer was on a downward trajectory before Saban arrived.CMR and Urban had much more to do with that than Saban.Fulmer left in '08 after a 5-7 season.
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. 100% exclusively the Auburn firing of Tubs.
Huh?Tubbs only coached against Saban once at Bama and bead em.He was fired 5 or 6 games into the '08 season.
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The final nail in his coffin was the 2008 game in Neyland where Bama had 45,000 fans in Neyland and delivered the loudest rammer jammer at an away game I've ever heard.
They were a shitshow all season...
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I think Saban not only had a plan on how to restore Bama, but also a plan on how to render Bama's rivals futile.
Amazing...must be some type of metaphysical wizard to do that in 2 seasons to do that in 2 seasons.
Both were gone with or without Saban.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 4:41 pm to RD Dawg
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Tubs walked into the stadium with 6 fingers held high signifying 6 in a row even though defeat was certain. He lost 36-0. He coached the whole season. His assistant coaches wife called into a radio show and said Nick Saban buying all the players is the reason her husband was fired. Bama started thr recruiting National championship and Spring Game attendance championship. The writing was on the wall.
UT beat shite out of UGA in 2007 and is the reason LSU won the national championship and not UGA. UGA was the best team that year, but that UT loss ruined what could have been.
UGA was a non factor in UT moving on from Fulmer. It was all Bama and a little of UF. They were used to losing to UF. They had won 9 in a row over Bama until Bama started this current streak.
Auburn panicked because they all the momentum they gained with 6 in a row over Bama was gone instantly.
How old were you during that time? You must be young.
I remember it like yesterday. The Bama, Saban impact was swift and precise.
You seem to be misinformed.
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Huh?Tubbs only coached against Saban once at Bama and bead em.He was fired 5 or 6 games into the '08 season.
Tubs walked into the stadium with 6 fingers held high signifying 6 in a row even though defeat was certain. He lost 36-0. He coached the whole season. His assistant coaches wife called into a radio show and said Nick Saban buying all the players is the reason her husband was fired. Bama started thr recruiting National championship and Spring Game attendance championship. The writing was on the wall.
UT beat shite out of UGA in 2007 and is the reason LSU won the national championship and not UGA. UGA was the best team that year, but that UT loss ruined what could have been.
UGA was a non factor in UT moving on from Fulmer. It was all Bama and a little of UF. They were used to losing to UF. They had won 9 in a row over Bama until Bama started this current streak.
Auburn panicked because they all the momentum they gained with 6 in a row over Bama was gone instantly.
How old were you during that time? You must be young.
I remember it like yesterday. The Bama, Saban impact was swift and precise.
You seem to be misinformed.
This post was edited on 1/6/19 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 1/6/19 at 5:08 pm to BhamDore
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Tubs walked into the stadium with 6 fingers held high signifying 6 in a row even though defeat was certain. He lost 36-0. He coached the whole season
My bad he did coach the whole season.They fired the OC midway through the season. Doesn't change that fact that the season was in the gutter before that game and
the AU power structure wanted him out if he didn't make
changes.
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UGA was a non factor in UT moving on from Fulmer
BS...he was 3-5 vs CMR after dominating UGA in the 90's.I lived up at Tennessee at the time and you don't think UGA's rise under CMR had anything to do with Fulmers firing you're delusional.
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Auburn panicked because they all the momentum they gained with 6 in a row over Bama was gone instantly.
So you're telling me a coach immediatly quits because he loses his first game in 6 years?
Had NOTHING to do with the other 6 losses,correct?
You really believe that?
So if Tubbs came into the '08 game undefeated he still woulda left/got fired after the Bama game?
This post was edited on 1/6/19 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 1/6/19 at 5:08 pm to deeprig9
Is Steve Naban an offensive or defensive minded coach?
Why type?
Why type?
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