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re: When is Heimlich scheduled to pitch again?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:23 pm to cypressbrake3
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:23 pm to cypressbrake3
Luke can’t eveb survive the 3rd inning a second straight CWS game
He has not been impressive at all. Even against LSU he was shaky but we never could capitalize
He has not been impressive at all. Even against LSU he was shaky but we never could capitalize
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:33 pm to CNB
And he's done.
Two short arse outings for the pedophile.
Two short arse outings for the pedophile.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:34 pm to CNB
He pled guilty?
WTF does that have to do with our judicial system? I'm sure they were out to get a priveleged white male athlete and set an example of him.
WTF does that have to do with our judicial system? I'm sure they were out to get a priveleged white male athlete and set an example of him.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:36 pm to Korin
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Brian Banks plead guilty too.
I don’t even know Banks, but did he pleas guilty to molesting a four year old for two straight years??
Sorry but you don’t ever plead guilty to that. He may have gotten off easy because of the plea deal but he’s paying for it now. Thankfully, because that’s just incredibly awful.
You don’t ever admit to molesting a four year old. And some else’s plea has nothing to do with your situation.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:36 pm to STLhog
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He pled guilty?
WTF does that have to do with our judicial system?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:37 pm to skirpnasty
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Think a 5 year old made up that detailed story and is still holding to it almost a decade later?
It wasn't that detailed. And much of his family believes it was not a legitimate accusation (the victim was a niece).
I personally don't think he was guilty, either.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:39 pm to beauchristopher
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I don’t even know Banks, but did he pleas guilty to molesting a four year old for two straight years??
Sorry but you don’t ever plead guilty to that. He may have gotten off easy because of the plea deal but he’s paying for it now. Thankfully, because that’s just incredibly awful.
You don’t ever admit to molesting a four year old. And some else’s plea has nothing to do with your situation.
Banks plead guilty to rape and had to serve 5 years in prison. That's pretty damn risky.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:42 pm to Evolved Simian
Then why the hell would he plead guilty to this kind of charge?? Any decent parent would help their son fight this knowing what kind of future this will lead to if this comes out. He said he did it-end of story.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:43 pm to Evolved Simian
How do you even get yourself in that situation?
With multiple accusations?
With multiple accusations?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:47 pm to tigerbaby17
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Then why the hell would he plead guilty to this kind of charge?? Any decent parent would help their son fight this knowing what kind of future this will lead to if this comes out. He said he did it-end of story.
Because a jury would've sided with the girl and he would've gotten a much more severe punishment? This only came out because authorities in Oregon screwed up.
Same reason Brian Banks plead - 5 years vs 25 years.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:57 pm to tigerbaby17
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He said he did it-end of story.
So did Banks. Lots of people are forced into false admissions, or to allocute in exchange for a plea deal in the face of an overzealous prosecution.
Heimlich accepted a plea deal on the advice of his attorney, who told him he would get probation and nothing beyond his juvenile record and that a trial would be public, messy, and everyone would forever assume his guilt (as you are doing now). His parents accepted the deal, despite believing in his innocence, because they thought a lengthy trial would completely wreck the family.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:57 pm to Evolved Simian
BUT HE PLEAD GUILTY BAW THAT MEANS HE DONE DID IT
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:58 pm to Korin
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Same reason Brian Banks plead - 5 years vs 25 years.
It's truly amazing that it's almost exclusively Louisianans who aren't bright enough to understand this.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:00 pm to CNB
I’d like to think he didn’t do it, but the truth is we just can’t know. Terrible situation for all involved.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:04 pm to AllbyMyRelf
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but the truth is we just can’t know.
I lean toward his innocence, for various reasons, but no, we will never know for sure.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:11 pm to Evolved Simian
Cry me a river. Banks is 1 example where his accuser recanted. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of cases where accusers don’t recant their stories. I have 2 children and I can tell you 100% that I would fight for them tooth and nail if this were them. I would NEVER let them take this plea without fighting for their life. This is without a doubt the worst label to have and that is why people are having this debate about Luke Heimlich right now. I have no pity for him because he didn’t fight for himself.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:13 pm to East Coast Band
Definitely before any Bama pitcher.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:13 pm to cypressbrake3
5 IP, 8 ER, 3 K, 14.40 ERA
Good Series, kid.
Good Series, kid.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:13 pm to Evolved Simian
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Heimlich accepted a plea deal on the advice of his attorney, who told him he would get probation and nothing beyond his juvenile record and that a trial would be public, messy, and everyone would forever assume his guilt (as you are doing now). His parents accepted the deal, despite believing in his innocence, because they thought a lengthy trial would completely wreck the family.
you're not wrong but none of this points either way towards his guilt or innocence. His attorney's advice would have been applicable either way. IMO more that actually has been released points to his guilt than his innocence, but that's obviously a matter of opinion. And no one will ever be privileged to see all the evidence in the case to be able to make an educated firm stance. One thing that has made me curious, however, is Luke never really says his side of the story. He maintains his innocence, sure, but he has never disclosed much else. Allegations like that don't just come out of nowhere whether he did it or not. I think he could help himself (his career at least), assuming he's innocent, by telling his full story about how the allegations came to be, what actually happened, etc. Saying "I'm innocent" and saying he was advised by his attorney to take the plea doesn't really present much of an argument for him.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 9:16 pm
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