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re: When did the “Modern Era” of College Football begin?
Posted on 7/19/24 at 3:37 pm to Dawgfanman
Posted on 7/19/24 at 3:37 pm to Dawgfanman
End of the 1970s. Is when the money started getting top billing
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Posted on 7/19/24 at 5:32 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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Normally I just have fun with the Gumps that say idiotic things like this. However, this vile racist lie about the city I live in says a lot more about the Alabama fan that said it than it does about Auburn.
I am calling on the Moderators to please apply the appropriate punishment/restrictions to Smokey Okie for these odious racially based lies.
Care to rethink your screeching histrionic response?
Delve a little deeper and it's easy to determine that the Asians, Hispanics, Foreign Nationals, and Others mostly identify as white. So, basically, auburn is looking at an almost 95% white student population.
Is that about right or do you want to call for a ban on anyone presenting that information also?
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 7/19/24 at 6:37 pm to Smokey Okie
Good to see you doubling down on your idiocy, and I am glad I hit a nerve with you and your disgusting statements.
I will repeat, I live here. I know and work with people of all races and creeds in Auburn, and we get along fine. Your suggestion that Auburn is a place where the general population looks to divide people into “black athletes” and whites is disturbing. The only reason I hope you do not get banned for this is that I hope you keep posting so that more and more people on this board can see you for what you really are….
I will repeat, I live here. I know and work with people of all races and creeds in Auburn, and we get along fine. Your suggestion that Auburn is a place where the general population looks to divide people into “black athletes” and whites is disturbing. The only reason I hope you do not get banned for this is that I hope you keep posting so that more and more people on this board can see you for what you really are….
Posted on 7/19/24 at 6:51 pm to Smokey Okie
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…in auburn, in modern times, that have almost no blacks in their city or school
Since you like statistics here are some that prove you are a liar.
White - 68.8%
Black - 14.4%
Asian - 8.6%
2 or more races - 4.9%
Other race - 3.2%
These are the latest demographics for the City of Auburn.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 6:54 pm to Dawgfanman
In the SEC? Like 2013. Y’all were still running ISO from your own 25.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 7:11 pm to EastTXHorn
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Y’all were still running ISO from your own 25.
Why do you keep saying this?
Some ran it others had it as a part of their offense (Richt) while others like Spurrier and Urban didn't run it all.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 7:11 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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Good to see you doubling down on your idiocy, and I am glad I hit a nerve with you and your disgusting statements.
Just stating facts, sir.
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I will repeat, I live here.
Are you looking to elicit sympathy?
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I know and work with people of all races and creeds in Auburn, and we get along fine.
So you are stating, for the record, you have a couple of black friends and therefore have an insight into racial relations that is outside of the grasp of less enlightened and progressive people?
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Your suggestion that Auburn is a place where the general population looks to divide people into “black athletes” and whites is disturbing.
The sub-topic I was responding to within the thread was about how "rich white schools" used to horde all the athletes in times past and how this prevented said schools/teams from entering the "modern era of football".
Again, with the information I have provided to you, please explain how auburn in not one of those "rich white schools" that a prejudiced poster was ridiculing those in the past for being.
If the cowsuit fits, sometimes you just have to wear it no matter how many black friends you have or may see around town here and there.
Out of around 33,000 current students enrolled at the University of auburn, only around 1600 are black. YIKES!
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 7/19/24 at 7:20 pm to Dawgfanman
Depends on who you are talking to and what fits their current agenda
Posted on 7/19/24 at 7:32 pm to Smokey Okie
You are not stating facts, you are making statements that you hope to disguise what looks like some twisted thoughts you have…
I am not claiming person x, y, and z of this or that race as my token friends, and I do not go around making friends on the basis of race. I accept all people on the basis of how they treat me, work with me, and if they are truthful with me. I live here and have lived and worked in other Alabama towns and southeastern cities, there are mostly good people in all of these places that are working hard to make a good life for everyone in their towns, Auburn is no different, not better and not worse.
Your descriptions of Auburn as being a terrible place for the way people of different races are treated is disgusting, and does more to promote the view of the south in general as racist.
Instead of making all these statements about me in your last post (which are all lies by the way), maybe you should point your critical eye back on yourself,….it may be ugly, but you could learn something.
I am not claiming person x, y, and z of this or that race as my token friends, and I do not go around making friends on the basis of race. I accept all people on the basis of how they treat me, work with me, and if they are truthful with me. I live here and have lived and worked in other Alabama towns and southeastern cities, there are mostly good people in all of these places that are working hard to make a good life for everyone in their towns, Auburn is no different, not better and not worse.
Your descriptions of Auburn as being a terrible place for the way people of different races are treated is disgusting, and does more to promote the view of the south in general as racist.
Instead of making all these statements about me in your last post (which are all lies by the way), maybe you should point your critical eye back on yourself,….it may be ugly, but you could learn something.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 7:40 pm to Dawgfanman
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When did the “Modern Era” of College Football begin?
Whenever the cutoff makes your team look the best.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 7:41 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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Instead of making all these statements about me in your last post (which are all lies by the way), maybe you should point your critical eye back on yourself,….it may be ugly, but you could learn something.
All your better-than-thou blather aside, I was responding to a poster that specifically stated "those rich white schools in the past" were not modern teams due solely to skin color.
While responding to this person, I listed facts about the overwhelming ratio of white to black students at the University of auburn and inquired if auburn still qualified as one of the rich "white" schools that this race baiter concentrated on.
Of course it does, you can't hardly find a black person at the University of auburn without first looking at the sports teams. Again, out of 33,000 students, only around a measly 1600 or so are black.
You can overreact and go on a crusade against what you perceive as racism or bias all you like if it makes you feel somehow more dignified.
But, at the end of the day, the truth is still the truth.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 7:47 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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Since you like statistics here are some that prove you are a liar.
White - 68.8%
Black - 14.4%
Asian - 8.6%
2 or more races - 4.9%
Other race - 3.2%
These are the latest demographics for the City of Auburn.
Now redo those stats while subtracting the 1600 black students who attend auburn and will likely never come back there, to save their lives, after graduation.
Don't come strutting in here acting like auburn is some bastion of racial harmony never before seen in other cities of lesser stature.
auburn is a lily-white town dominated by an ultra-white college and anyone who has had the misfortune of finding themselves there can easily attest to this.
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 7/19/24 at 7:55 pm to Dawgfanman
I like 1983.
UGA/OU vs NCAA
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It ended the cartel hold the NCAA had on their member schools media and marketing rights!
UGA/OU vs NCAA
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It ended the cartel hold the NCAA had on their member schools media and marketing rights!
Posted on 7/19/24 at 7:58 pm to Smokey Okie
Wow! What an arse you are. I have never said things are perfect in Auburn, and not trying to portray it as such. I do know it, and I am calling out your description of it as a “llily white town dominated by an ultra-white college” as a damn lie.
What SEC town are you holding up as pinnacle of virtue that we should be trying to emulate?
What SEC town are you holding up as pinnacle of virtue that we should be trying to emulate?
Posted on 7/19/24 at 8:07 pm to FlyDownTheField83
Why are you responding to Cajunbama?
Posted on 7/19/24 at 8:09 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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Wow! What an arse you are. I have never said things are perfect in Auburn, and not trying to portray it as such.
But you did do your best impression of a Karenesque cultural warrior out to stamp out an "evil racist person" because I stated auburn was about as white as a white gets for a public school.
I stated this very real fact in response to a poster stating that, in the past, "rich white schools" hoarded hundreds of players.
So, in that regard, auburn is still a "rich white school".
Who knows what set you off on your begging of the moderators to have me banned? It's silly and your response was overreaction and you have achieved nothing.
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I do know it, and I am calling out your description of it as a “llily white town dominated by an ultra-white college” as a damn lie.
Great, good for you. Please explain how I am wrong. Thanks.
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What SEC town are you holding up as pinnacle of virtue that we should be trying to emulate?
Since you asked, let's examine Tuscaloosa compared to auburn.
Tuscaloosa is almost evenly split between black and white residents and live in what is basically a utopian wonderland compared to the white dominated city of auburn.
It seems like if you really loved your fellow man, regardless of race, you would get the hell out of auburn and move to a much more open and free and natural place, like Tuscaloosa.
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 7/19/24 at 8:39 pm to Smokey Okie
So the University of Alabama with its 11% black student population is that paragon of virtue you want everyone to aspire to, that looks pretty different from the demographic information you show for the town of Tuscaloosa. Interesting how you can choose certain stats to prop up a ridiculous point of view. Any reasonable person that has experience living in Alabama or the southeast knows how stupid it is to say Tuscaloosa is a “utopian wonderland” compared to Auburn in terms of race relations.
I am no culture warrior and hate that kind of thing, especially when people try to single out southeastern towns in that regard.
So your lies about race in Auburn are based on being an Alabama fan, I accept that. Alabama fans telling lies about Auburn is a time honored tradition.
I am no culture warrior and hate that kind of thing, especially when people try to single out southeastern towns in that regard.
So your lies about race in Auburn are based on being an Alabama fan, I accept that. Alabama fans telling lies about Auburn is a time honored tradition.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 8:49 pm to Dawgfanman
I think there are several different definitions that all have merit.
1945- post WW2 is for sure the earliest you’d be able to say the modern era started
1980- this is when scholarship limitations began kicking in and a newfound era of parity took hold. Georgia (1980), Clemson (1981), Penn State (1982), Miami (1983), BYU (1984), Georgia Tech (1990), Colorado (1990), Washington (1991), Florida State (1993), and Florida (1996) all won their first national title during this period. That’s 10 new national champs in a 17-year period. It had been 18 years since we had a first time major poll national champ (USC 1962).
1992- the first year of conference divisions
1998- BCS/Playoff era began
2012- the Playoff era
While we might think it’s ludicrous to say the modern era began as recently as 2012, in 40-50 years many people will say that’s when it really began.
1945- post WW2 is for sure the earliest you’d be able to say the modern era started
1980- this is when scholarship limitations began kicking in and a newfound era of parity took hold. Georgia (1980), Clemson (1981), Penn State (1982), Miami (1983), BYU (1984), Georgia Tech (1990), Colorado (1990), Washington (1991), Florida State (1993), and Florida (1996) all won their first national title during this period. That’s 10 new national champs in a 17-year period. It had been 18 years since we had a first time major poll national champ (USC 1962).
1992- the first year of conference divisions
1998- BCS/Playoff era began
2012- the Playoff era
While we might think it’s ludicrous to say the modern era began as recently as 2012, in 40-50 years many people will say that’s when it really began.
Posted on 7/19/24 at 8:50 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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So the University of Alabama with its 11% black student population is that paragon of virtue you want everyone to aspire to
It's a hell of a lot better than the white stronghold of auburn University with a meager 5% of it's student population being black. It's a whopping 6% better, which is quite substantial actually.
And let's face it, when going to the town of auburn, way out in the middle of the plains and cow pastures, with only a fleeting view of a black person here and there, it feels kind of Klanny and isolated.
I bet your thinking of Opelika where you interact with and know black people and see them around. Opelika is cool and doesn't have that dangerous, secluded, and weird feeling that auburn gives you by being almost all white.
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