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re: What's the difference between D. Henry and a Big XII Quarterback?

Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:48 pm to
Do you realize how hard it is to rush for 200 yards when the defense knows you are going to run it? He ran against a lot of 8 and 9 man formations.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:56 pm to
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Why hasn't Leo done this if it's so easy?


Two less games and his coach doesn't run him into the ground
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:11 pm to
He'll finish his career with 300 more carries than Henry.
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:16 pm to
Derek Henry is relevant on the national stage?

Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:33 pm to
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He'll finish his career with 300 more carries than Henry


I guess you haven't seen highlights from Mr. Guice then have you?

Look to all the Gumps who think Henry's season is some all-time great accomplishment, Fournette had a 31 yard game and would still have beaten Henry's yard mark if he played McNeese State.

I just don't think the country as a whole is mesmerized by this kid when his coach runs him for the 40th time with 26 seconds left in a game that's over.

Everyone saying he makes the team just casually forgets the guy has one of the best run blocking lines in the country. Plus, it's not like the guy leads his team in rushing and receiving. That would be crazy... Maybe not so much for McCaffery
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:40 pm to
You're All Over the Place Mad.
Posted by ATLtiger12
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2013
675 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:56 pm to
Alabama is able to continually recruits freaks at RB (6'3 230 lb type guys) who then are handed the ball close to 30 times a game and run behind one of the best offensive lines in college football. Not to mention in a Lane Kiffen offense with the offensive talent they can recruit at WR they are able to keep a relatively balanced offense. Henry is both a beast and a product of his system and it is no surprise that Bama rb's continued to get invited to NY when they are in the championship race every year.

The better question is why does it seem like McCaffery has very little chance to win the award when he does far more for his team with less?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:05 am to
Honest answer to your question? Because he plays at 10:00 PM to half the audience that Henry does. He'll still be a solid to very close 2nd, IMO.
Posted by The Quiet One
Former United States
Member since Oct 2013
11599 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:14 am to
Late to the party...this thread made me LOL.

A system running back in a pro-style offense...I've heard it all.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:25 am to
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A system running back in a pro-style offense...I've heard it all


It flew right over your head and every Gump's head in this thread (Great Dr. Seuss book title)
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:47 am to
Who you do it against matters too. Look at who McCaffrey had his best games against compared to Henry. He had one great game all year against a top 25 defense (though to be fair he didn't receive anywhere near enough touches against Northwestern). The majority of his production came against the likes of Arizona, Oregon and Cal who are all terrible defensively.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22671 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 5:04 am to
It's funny how people think because they can say how something was done it has no meaning or value.

If it's so damn easy, then everyone would be doing it. It wouldn't be a 34 year old record getting broke.

As for Fournette - I'm betting these days he's thinking he picked the wrong team since he's going to face that Alabama defense every year of his career.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30106 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 5:31 am to
I guess you haven't seen highlights from Mr. Guice then have you?


The one where Tony Brown almost broke him in half? Or the one where Nysewander knocked him out of Bryant-Denny? Are those the highlights you were referring to??? Be specific.
Posted by A_Leather_Glove
Behind a podium
Member since Oct 2012
1192 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 6:53 am to
It's much easier to sell out to stop the run, especially if a team does not a strong enough passing attack to really punish you for doing so.

Also, rushing defenses in the SEC are more stout than passing defenses in the Big XII.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5598 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 7:46 am to
Not sure why Henry can carry 46 times and the freshman only once. They say that the freshman doesn't know how to block yet. Tell me how much blocking Henry did on those 46 carries. Give the freshman 5 carries and don't ask him to block.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 7:51 am to
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How is it any more impressive to run the ball 200 yards on 45+ carries?
You got no idea what it would be like to have 45 carries in a brutal SEC football game. Go talk to somebody who has carried the rock in that type of situation.
Posted by ChoadieMcSmalls
Look behind you
Member since Jul 2012
1695 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:13 am to
The difference is Henry did it and LF7 didn't.


Proofs in the puddin, my man.
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3743 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:18 am to
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would still have beaten Henry's yard mark if he played McNeese State.


Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3743 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:22 am to
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coach runs him for the 40th time with 26 seconds left in a game that's over.


you do realize that lf7 had a 30 yard run in the game against syracuse up 34-24 with 1:30 left in the game?
Posted by ChoadieMcSmalls
Look behind you
Member since Jul 2012
1695 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:38 am to
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you do realize that lf7 had a 30 yard run in the game against syracuse up 34-24 with 1:30 left in the game?



nah, he's got selective memory. If it fits his argument, he uses it. If it doesn't, it's discarded.

Interweb winning argument strategy oneohjuan.
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