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re: What's the difference between D. Henry and a Big XII Quarterback?
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:27 pm to Tornado Alley
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:27 pm to Tornado Alley
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But this dude is about to hit 2,000 yards in a conference that has never seen that before.
A conference that has yielded some of the best RBs in NCAA history, no less.
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:30 pm to Tornado Alley
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But this dude is about to hit 2,000 yards in a conference that has never seen that before.
But my argument is that it's because they are using him so much. This is not a thread trying to make a point that Baker Mayfield should win the Heisman or any Big 12 QB for that matter.
It's just to show the level of hypocrisy when people claim if a QB wins it from the Big 12 or Pac 12 it's a "product of his system" due to the overall usage rate. The exact same claim can be made for Henry in this case since they ran him 90+ times in the last two games. He doesn't get those yards without the sheer number of carries.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:31 pm to OKtiger
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But my argument is that it's because they are using him so much.
Right, but he broke the single season SEC rushing yardage record in less carries than the previous record holder. That sort of demolishes your argument, no?
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:33 pm to Funky Tide 8
yeah but he plays for Alabama so no...argument still stands.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:38 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Right, but he broke the single season SEC rushing yardage record in less carries than the previous record holder. That sort of demolishes your argument, no?
Demolishes it? Hardly. I'll reiterate my point for the third time. Derrick Henry running the ball 45+ times for a bunch of yards is no more impressive than a Big 12 QB throwing the ball 60+ times for a bunch of yards. Both are products of their offensive systems they run and amount of attempts they get.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:39 pm to OKtiger
First of all, a 2000 yard back in the SEC has never happened before, so drop the "system" nonsense. Hell, Alabama didn't have a 1,000 yard rusher in 2014 and 2010.
Second, if you've got the horse to get to 2k, and you don't ride him there, you're a god damn incompetent football coach.
Les Miles had the horse to get him to 2K, but rode him hard against the likes of Syracuse, Eastern Michigan, etc.
Second, if you've got the horse to get to 2k, and you don't ride him there, you're a god damn incompetent football coach.
Les Miles had the horse to get him to 2K, but rode him hard against the likes of Syracuse, Eastern Michigan, etc.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:40 pm to OKtiger
quote:I would reiterate my point for the second time, but you would probably ignore it again.
I'll reiterate my point for the third time. Derrick Henry running the ball 45+ times for a bunch of yards is no more impressive than a Big 12 QB throwing the ball 60+ times for a bunch of yards. Both are products of their offensive systems they run and amount of attempts they get.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:46 pm to OKtiger
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I'll reiterate my point for the third time. Derrick Henry running the ball 45+ times for a bunch of yards is no more impressive than a Big 12 QB throwing the ball 60+ times for a bunch of yards. Both are products of their offensive systems they run and amount of attempts they get.
He averages two more carries per game than LF7.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:53 pm to OKtiger
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I'll reiterate my point for the third time. Derrick Henry running the ball 45+ times for a bunch of yards is no more impressive than a Big 12 QB throwing the ball 60+ times for a bunch of yards. Both are products of their offensive systems they run and amount of attempts they get.
This is bad football analysis, and you should henceforth refrain from referring to yourself as an "SEC man."
Watch out for all those "system" 1,700-yard rushers from days past. I can count them on two hands: Henry, Fournette, Mason, McFadden, Jackson, Walker (twice).
Quit being a clown, bro.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:57 pm to OKtiger
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molishes it? Hardly. I'll reiterate my point for the third time. Derrick Henry running the ball 45+ times for a bunch of yards is no more impressive than a Big 12 QB throwing the ball 60+ times for a bunch of yards. Both are products of their offensive systems they run and amount of attempts they get.
Everyone understands the point you are 'trying' to make. Unfortunately for you it is a dumb one where you are comparing two very different situations on a very superficial level. The other posters here have done a great job comparing the differences in running for 2000 yards in the sec and passing for a bunch of yards in the big 12. Why don't you address those instead of blathering on about the same shite?
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:59 pm to OKtiger
he ran the 1900 yards. He didn't throw a dump pass and let a WR do the work
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:11 pm to SammyTiger
Boom..good point but he still plays for Alabama.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:12 pm to thatdude1985
quote:It's the same point I made.
Boom..good point but he still plays for Alabama.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:22 pm to pvilleguru
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It's the same point I made.
But I made it with style
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:34 pm to Billy Mays
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McCaffrey is the better overall RB, but Henry is a good fit for Bama's offense and there's a significant drop off behind him so you can't discount how valuable he is.
Well, no. McCaffrey wouldn't last a half season if he weren't playing against Pac 12 defenses.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:38 pm to Tornado Alley
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Watch out for all those "system" 1,700-yard rushers from days past. I can count them on two hands: Henry, Fournette, Mason, McFadden, Jackson, Walker (twice)
It's funny because any of those rushers could run for 271 yards with 45+ carries against Auburn and in turn end up with 2000 yards, so in a way, you are just reiterating my point that it's not as impressive of a feat if you let him run every single play like Bama has this season
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:39 pm to ErnestTBassmaster
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Well, no. McCaffrey wouldn't last a half season if he weren't playing against Pac 12 defenses.
Yeah he couldn't handle Auburn and A&M..
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:42 pm to OKtiger
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t's funny because any of those rushers could run for 271 yards with 45+ carries against Auburn and in turn end up with 2000 yards, so in a way, you are just reiterating my point that it's not as impressive of a feat if you let him run every single play like Bama has this season
But none of them did, you god damn idiot.
You do realize that McCaffrey has 319 carries to Henry's 339, right? It's not like there is a gulf between them.
You do realize that Henry averages more per carry than McCaffrey, right?
Jesus Christ.
Log off and go to bed.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:46 pm to Tornado Alley
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But none of them did, you god damn idiot.
But they could have you fricking moron because nearly any RB in the SEC could run for the same amount of yards with 90+ carries behind that O line in the last two games of the season. Nearly anyone! THe more opportunities you get to run the ball, it's more likely that the runner will gain more yards. His season as a whole, when including those two games, is not the most impressive feat in the world. Is it really that hard to comprehend??
That Ole Miss education puttin in work!
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:48 pm to OKtiger
Wait, so you're touting McCaffrey as your evidence? 
You really should quit, now.
You really should quit, now.
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