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re: What problem does paying players solve?

Posted on 10/3/19 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 5:53 pm to
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I agree. Let them major in "football" or "sports training" or some shite.


Wouldn't that fall under Physical Education? I think that option is already on the table.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 5:56 pm to
You clearly missed the point

I don't care if the industry is majority white

What you missed is allowing the majority Black players to experience the SAME FREE MARKET as those majority whites

I guess you totally skipped over that part

Just because you're a non Pro Athlete doesn't mean you give away your Constitutional Rights to own and profit from your likeness in the FREE MARKET
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 6:00 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:01 pm to
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They might not keep Athl Dept monies separate, but this is a FACT, at the P5 Colleges + a few others about 75 Colleges total the revenue sports RUN AT A SURPLUS based on the financials, Baseball usually breaks even based on the financials


Dude. Stop. Just stop. There are 1,000+ schools that offer sports of some type. 50 make money. Think about it. You want to hurt African-American athletes? Start paying athletes and watch all the schools start doing away with sports. They cannot afford it.

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What that means for folks like you that can't think and conceptualize is that the FEES from the Students that go to the Athl Dept SUBSIDIZE those sports that operate AT A DEFICIT, these are ALL the TITLE IX SPORTS, and the non revenue Men's Sports

Do you have any idea how much those fees add up to? no, you don't, because you didn't take the time to read my links. It is a small, minute part of the athletic budget. of the schools that make money (50) the revenue producing sports pay for those along with boosters and donations, etc. You either should read the links and get educated or quit trying to act like you know what you are talking about. Give me something more than your word. Provide a link or 2. You can't.
I gave you several links showing you that were wrong, but instead of reading them you just want to regurgitate the same old crap and then scream "racism!"

It;s easier to scream racism than it is to educate yourself and learn the truth, I guess.
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Just because the money isn't physically separated for idiots like you doesn't mean the money isn't used to subsidize those sports that operate at a deficit


When you have an athletic budget that is in the millions do you really think $100,000 of student activity fees are keeping sports afloat?


READ THE LINKS!
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:06 pm to
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I don't care if the industry is majority white

Yes you do. You clearly claimed that a white majority industry profited while majority black athletes have not! Then you asked if it was a coincidence! You are quite clearly blaming everything on racism...and of course it's white people ho are the racist.

I don't care if somebody is white, black, red or pink with purple polkadots. They are being trained for the next job which is the NFL just like any other student is. And flash....nobody....no student is guaranteed a job when they get out of college. Nobody. The difference? The players are getting a free ride of education and the rest of the students are not. And, before you say something else dumb like...."The colleges are making money off the athletes!" True. But, don't you think the colleges are making off the fees, tuition, books, medical care, food etc from all the other students? The colleges are making money on all the students!
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:08 pm to
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What you missed is allowing the majority Black players to experience the SAME FREE MARKET as those majority whites


Wait. Maybe I did miss something. What free market are white football players experiencing that black football players are not?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:23 pm to
It erases a huge portion of a market failure and resulting black market.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:29 pm to
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It erases a huge portion of a market failure and resulting black market.



Not really. After a kid signs with a team, another team will come along and offer more money and a bidding war will start, to the kid will just enter the transfer portal.

The only way they could make it work is by signing one year contracts. There would be bidding wars for the top players every single year. I don't think people are fully thinking this through.

ETA
Look at the pros and that is what you would get.

Players holding out for more money during the season. It would be pure chaos.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 6:31 pm
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:52 pm to
How friggin stupid can you be

You skipped over what I wrote

The Coaches, Admins, and Broadcast Media that makes their money off of these Athletes Entertainment value ARE able to benefit from a free market

The players that are majority Black at the big sports schools DO NOT benefit from a free market

Never did I compare BLK Athletes & white Athletes

You changed the narrative on purpose or you lack reading skills

The players are majority Black , they don't get to experience a free market, NEVER did I exclude white players

Coaches and Admins and others that make money off of big-time college sports do get a free market

Don't change the narrative simply address the disparity in rights
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:58 pm to
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There would be bidding wars for the top players every single year. I don't think people are fully thinking this through.


There are already bidding wars for top players every year. They just happen under the table for high school kids.

Transfer rules still exist. That could be monitored.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25874 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:59 pm to
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Players holding out for more money during the season. It would be pure chaos.

That would be dumb. The schools aren’t the ones who would be paying the players.

Edited to add the bold. I can’t stress that enough
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 7:03 pm
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:04 pm to
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Not really. After a kid signs with a team, another team will come along and offer more money and a bidding war will start, to the kid will just enter the transfer portal.

The only way they could make it work is by signing one year contracts. There would be bidding wars for the top players every single year. I don't think people are fully thinking this through.

ETA
Look at the pros and that is what you would get.

Players holding out for more money during the season. It would be pure chaos.



More racial bias in your idiotic comments

Coaches, that happen to be majority white deal with this each season with schools poaching coaches from Rivals Staffs and fans LIKE YOU don't say a damned thing

Yet you claim if players do it, it'll be bad for the Sport and cause chaos

Let's see - a coordinator that makes $1.5MM PER year can leave and go to an in Conference rival and no one says a damn word

Let a RS OLB that grew 2 inches, put on 15lbs, and cut his forty time by 1-tenth of second try to transfer to an in Conference Rival and everyone loses their minds

One is likely to be white and one is likely to be Black, in my opinion that has a lot to do with the differing reactions

Also based on the outrage of the transferring player in my example, then that player MUST BE worth 1 penny more than that coordinator that makes $1.5MM Per yr, otherwise no one would care

Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:10 pm to
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What problem does paying players solve?
It takes away control from the NCAA to allow some schools to cheat while making others follow the rules. So you don't have Bama coaches "loaning" players money while if an Ole Miss player gets any money they go on probation. That's really the only thing good it really does.

Possibly create enough of a gap between the bigger schools and the smaller ones that we can get the small conferences weeded out and create a new division. The issue then becomes with separation within the conferences with the bottom schools and whether they can keep up or to drop them for someone that can.

Otherwise things will be the same. The same schools will be at the top but the middle school will be more competitive every now and then.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 7:19 pm
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:11 pm to
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Dude. Stop. Just stop. There are 1,000+ schools that offer sports of some type. 50 make money. Think about it. You want to hurt African-American athletes? Start paying athletes and watch all the schools start doing away with sports. They cannot afford it.


I've never mentioned 1,000 colleges

Almost every post I've made I have clearly mentioned the Top75 Colleges

I could care less about smaller colleges that don't have the financials or the TV & Media deals to be mentioned in this conversation

You don't mistreat Athletes at the Top75 Colleges or deny Constitutional Rights to those based on issues at smaller Colleges that don't generate any money
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:11 pm to
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So you don't have Bama coaches "loaning" players money
your last title was when you paid for Newton, glass houses retarded little brother.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13362 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:17 pm to
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your last title was when you paid for Newton, glass houses retarded little brother.
Difference is the NCAA and FBI dug for 6 months and cleared Auburn. Bama was busted and still didn't get probation. Saban hasn't had a title at Bama that didn't involve a player or coach that was caught cheating or flashing money or a new car. Bama doesn't want it because they know it's their life blood.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 7:20 pm
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:19 pm to
the very definition of a ITAT poster.

Never lose that Tin foil hat.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13362 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:20 pm to
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the very definition of a ITAT poster.
Im sorry that's the only spin yall have for it. I guess that makes you a ATPB poster then. You can't spin Bama has been on probation for cheating more than any other SEC school in the last 30 years. I'm sure it was all made up or Bama just suddenly stopped cheating all together the same time Emmert took over.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 7:23 pm
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:20 pm to
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Do you have any idea how much those fees add up to? no, you don't, because you didn't take the time to read my links. It is a small, minute part of the athletic budget. of the schools that make money (50) the revenue producing sports pay for those along with boosters and donations, etc. You either should read the links and get educated or quit trying to act like you know what you are talking about. Give me something more than your word. Provide a link or 2. You can't.
I gave you several links showing you that were wrong, but instead of reading them you just want to regurgitate the same old crap and then scream "racism!"


Those fees add up to 4-5% at most of those big-time schools I clearly wrote that in an earlier post

at the super big money schools, Bama, Texas, etc those fees might be 2% or less

But those fees don't go to subsidizing greedy selfish Athletes like you originally claimed they do

Those Sports with the greedy entitled, selfish Athletes pay their own freight, at the Top75 schools Athletics wise they do

Once again I have never mentioned small Colleges that no one cares about from an Athletics perspective
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:22 pm to
Is it cheaper or more expensive than a dodge charger?
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:24 pm to
Replace your tin foil hat please. You need a newer version.
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