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re: What problem does paying players solve?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:03 pm to Dawgfanman
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:03 pm to Dawgfanman
Oh I get it.
The NFL has turned me off due to all the money. I think it's ridiculous. The market seems to disagree though.
The NFL has turned me off due to all the money. I think it's ridiculous. The market seems to disagree though.
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:03 pm to Dawgfanman
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They can go play pro sports any time they’d like..
No, they cant.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:03 pm to ChexMix
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those poor athletes already receive a free education, free housing, free meals and a lifetime network for jobs but yeah, their so under paid
Irrelevant.
A pianist on a piano scholarship is allowed to perform a piano concert and be paid for doing so. Only athletes are limited by their scholarship in this way.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:03 pm to Dawgfanman
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They can go play pro sports any time they’d like..
And some will and some aren't good enough for the nfl. But there is a market for them in college, small window for these men to make money and you wish to deny them it. And why? Just because you are afraid of the changes it will bring to your favorite sport.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:04 pm to J2thaROC
Is the piano player maintaining amateur status?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:05 pm to RollTide1987
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No they can't. They have to wait three years before they can enter the NFL Draft.
There have been leagues that would take them in the past, for some reason they always fail.
They could also spend those 3 years paying for their own trainers, coaches and everything else and then promote themselves to get an invite to the Combine on their own, since apparently doing all that shite is free.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:05 pm to Bayouhillbilly1
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No, they cant
Yes they can. The CFL, just one example, has no age restriction like the NFL does. There are hundreds of overseas BBall leagues
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:07 pm to Dawgfanman
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There are other pro sport leagues, here and abroad.
You still have to be three years removed from high school in the vast majority of pro football league alternatives and that includes major ones like the Canadian Football League.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:07 pm to viceman
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And some will and some aren't good enough for the nfl. But there is a market for them in college, small window for these men to make money and you wish to deny them it. And why? Just because you are afraid of the changes it will bring to your favorite sport.
They have the same lifetime to make money that anyone else does.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:09 pm to RollTide1987
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You still have to be three years removed from high school in the vast majority of pro football league alternatives and that includes major ones like the Canadian Football League.
I do not think this is correct, but I’d support states forcing those leagues to change those rules.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:12 pm to Dawgfanman
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Fairness? Like being able to get an education at a school you wouldn’t normally be able to get into, if you couldn’t jump high? Taking the spot in class of a more qualified student? That sort of fairness?
Everyone seems to want to ignore this fact. We can't have that conversation, along with many others, in this country. Which is why the real issues will never be solved.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:15 pm to Dawgfanman
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They have the same lifetime to make money that anyone else does.
They have four years of eligibility and small window to market that, but you wish to deny them it for the sake of your entertainment? Isn't that what this is really about. This about people being afraid of change and how it will affect their favorite sports. Meanwhile we here in the SEC just pretend like the players aren't getting paid anyway. Then this Aubie in another thread accuses the Californians of virtue signaling.
edit actually he did it in this thread too
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:19 pm to viceman
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They have four years of eligibility and small window to market that, but you wish to deny them it for the sake of your entertainment?
No, I will soon be paying for two children to attend College. They may get some scholarships, but part of what I’ll be finding will go to mandatory fees that get spent on providing these poor players with food/clothing/housing/training/education. Like any consumer, I have an opinion on what my money pays for..if they get paid they shouldn’t get the other stuff. If they get both then the other students shouldn’t pay these fees.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:24 pm to Dawgfanman
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That’s not a problem. There are thousands of people willing to fill the position, with all its risks, without being paid. No one is making these players take risks without pay.
You didn’t address what I said. Of course there’s thousands of very poor people with no shot at a future other than sports willing to roll the dice. The players are still taking the risk, hence the push for pay.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:52 pm to roadGator
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Is the piano player maintaining amateur status?
Irrelevant
That is a rule that applies only to athletes and there in lies the problem. You set up a rule against one group but not others. That is discrimination. Only athletes on scholarship are forbidden from making money off themselves and their abilities. Every other person on scholarship is allowed to pursue employment of money using their talents. The pianist, the biochemist, the physicist, etc can all be employed by a company specifically for their skills within that field of study.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:55 pm to Dawgfanman
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No, I will soon be paying for two children to attend College. They may get some scholarships, but part of what I’ll be finding will go to mandatory fees that get spent on providing these poor players with food/clothing/housing/training/education. Like any consumer, I have an opinion on what my money pays for..if they get paid they shouldn’t get the other stuff. If they get both then the other students shouldn’t pay these fees.
Your kids are not inhibited from getting a job IN THEIR FIELD OF STUDY while still on scholarship to help THEM pay for everything.
That’s the point. The NCAA is specifically inhibiting one group from being able to do that while no other scholarship group has those inhibitions places on them.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:57 pm to GaryGator
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Everyone seems to want to ignore this fact. We can't have that conversation, along with many others, in this country.
You could say the same about academic scholarships. Many on academic scholarships now have access to schools they wouldn’t normally have access to all because they scored higher on a test.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:58 pm to Dawgfanman
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They have the same lifetime to make money that anyone else does.
Lifespan is irrelevant.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:02 pm to Dawgfanman
How does this benefit any fan? That’s what I don’t understand. I receive no benefit from this so I don’t see why so many people outside of current/future college athletes are for it.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:05 pm to Dawgfanman
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They can go play pro sports any time they’d like..
They can’t and that’s part of the point
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