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re: What is the biggest FBS win of BK’s career?

Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:27 pm to
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First tell us the biggest FBS win of Nick Saban, Les Miles and Ed Orgeron before they became the HC at LSU.



Each of whom definitely had twenty+ year careers to compare against
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:29 pm to
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Murph made an excellent argument earlier for BK succeeding at LSU when he posted the players in the NFL by college numbers

Every good point he’s made he fricks up by arguing against his own post shortly thereafter. It’s been fascinating to watch honestly
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:29 pm to
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I’m sensing some frustration.
Let's be honest, the myth has grown so much from a bowl game loss that occurred not even a year ago, that by the time you're telling you're grandkids about it, my sarcasm likely won't be far off from what you actually tell them.

It'll make Texas A&M's 12th Man Fairy Tale seem like they were the 85 Bears.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:29 pm to
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Murph made an excellent argument earlier for BK succeeding at LSU when he posted the players in the NFL by college numbers



It actually is a good argument.

Notre Dame averaged somewhere around the #10 recruiting class under Kelly but was #5 at putting players in the NFL.

He's excellent at developing players, though few of them were elite skill players.

He will have no excuse to not succeed because of that at LSU.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:30 pm to
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the myth has grown

It really hasn’t grown at all. Like I said. When you recycle the same shitposting arguments, you’re going to see the same recycled responses. They aren’t going to change and haven’t changed. Again, it isn’t difficult to grasp

The number of scholarship players at the time he was hired was 39. That is still the number being cited. You hearing the number over and over again doesn’t mean the myth has grown. It means this board can’t come up with new and original material
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:31 pm to
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Each of whom definitely had twenty+ year careers to compare against

Orgeron blows this argument up

But you knew that
Posted by Ironlung
Central Arkansas
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:33 pm to
Anyway, everyone knows the true reason Kelly will fail at LSU is because he turned his back on God.
Baton Rouge may be a Catholic name, but it ain't New Orleans. It's mostly English.
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 10:35 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:33 pm to
The best predictor of future performance is past performance. Brian Kelly shits the bed in big games. We have a large sample size. Maybe he will do great at LSU though.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71907 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:33 pm to
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Anyway, everyone knows the true reason Kelly will fail at LSU is because he turned his back on God. Baton Rouge may have a French name, but it ain't New Orleans. It's mostly English.

….so anyways
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51127 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:33 pm to
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Let's be honest, the myth has grown so much from a bowl game loss that occurred not even a year ago

Tell me how the myth has grown
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
35119 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:34 pm to
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Beating Alabama this year?


Ab so fricking lutely it was.

Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:34 pm to
Considering Notre Dame's stringent academic standards for incoming athletes, and what they were before he arrived, the way Brian Kelly turned them around, and made them a consistent winner was nothing short of incredible. Stellar coaching job!

Saban said it best. "LSU has always had the athletes. Now they have a coach."
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51127 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:35 pm to
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The best predictor of future performance is past performance. Brian Kelly shits the bed in big games. We have a large sample size. Maybe he will do great at LSU though.

Well we’re back at square one
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71907 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:36 pm to
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The best predictor of future performance is past performance. Brian Kelly shits the bed in big games. We have a large sample size. Maybe he will do great at LSU though.

Hot take
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:37 pm to
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Notre Dame averaged somewhere around the #10 recruiting class under Kelly but was #5 at putting players in the NFL.

Either he develops them or the recruiting services underrate them (and he has the ability to see that and exploit that undervalue), or a combination of both.

There's two variables in that, and both speak well to BK in that regard.

But his record vs. talented teams isn't great.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15057 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:39 pm to
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Orgeron blows this argument up

But you knew that



Oh yeah damn look at the twenty+ years of head coaching he had. Great point!
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:39 pm to
You’re starting to get it
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68644 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:39 pm to
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But his record vs. talented teams isn't great.





He usually loses to the #1 national champion, just like everyone else.

In most cases, they were quite a bit more talented than his teams.

He should be able to close that gap a bit at LSU.
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 10:40 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51127 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:40 pm to
Would you rather Orgeron or Kelly be UFs head coach?
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:41 pm to
I want to hear Kelly's Florida accent.
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