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re: What is a realistic timetable as to when Saban will retire?

Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:17 am to
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:17 am to
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...before he landed at the most corrupt program in college football history.

Pot, meet kettle...
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21884 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:23 am to


Needs a NSFW tag for the AU fans in here. Someone's burger is getting an extra helping of secret sauce on it.
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
5378 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:26 am to
Maybe I am the only one to notice but to me he is starting to look haggard in the face. The stress of the Bama job is overwhelming and he holds himself to the highest standard along with everybody else. I just think it is going to be sooner rather than later. That job has taken a toll on him and I do think the burnout factor is very relevant in his case. I could see him hanging it up over the next couple of years especially if Bama wins another Natty or two.
I do think he will go out on a year where he wins it all though.
Posted by rolltide1283
Pinson
Member since Feb 2007
3362 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:27 am to
Auburn has more NCAA major infractions! Tell us how Bama is more corrupt!
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19331 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:43 am to
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Once upon a time, Saban was just another hapless, vulnerable coach there at the podium on NSD, a desperate man staring down the barrel of his program’s expectations (of return on their player recruiting investment) and their rival having just won as many titles as his program with 1/4th the resources... having watched Auburn threaten to sign a 2nd consecutive class better than his, looking directly into the camera, begging the REC to buy Cyrus Kouandjio away from Auburn to save his incompetent arse from being exposed... Again, Tom Tuberville with resources.


If he's basically Tommy Tubberville without Bama/REC resources, how do you explain 2003?
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8565 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:51 am to
Shug and the 57 National Champs that could not go to a bowl game due to probation says Hello!!!!
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8565 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:53 am to
Drunk Pat left Aubie on probation, never won a NC, and you dumbfricks named the field after him!!!!
Posted by aufbfan
Member since Jan 2015
760 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:58 am to
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If he's basically Tommy Tubberville without Bama/REC resources, how do you explain 2003?

He went 13-1 with a double digit home loss to 8-5 Ron Zook and won a “natty” without having to face the #1 ranked USC Trojans.

3 of their wins that year were by 7 points or less. And again, there was that blowout loss at home to Ron Zook.

Tubs went 13-0 the very next season, with only 2 wins by 7 points or less.

Nick Saban 2001-2003: 33-9 (.785)
Tom Tuberville 2004-2006: 33-5 (.868)
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 12:23 pm
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:02 pm to
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We agree. Give Tom Tuberville the resources of a program willing to spend more money on recruiting, “developing”, and retaining (making issues go away) than the rest of the SEC combined and you get Nick Saban.

Once upon a time, Saban was just another hapless, vulnerable coach there at the podium on NSD, a desperate man staring down the barrel of his program’s expectations (of return on their player recruiting investment) and their rival having just won as many titles as his program with 1/4th the resources... having watched Auburn threaten to sign a 2nd consecutive class better than his, looking directly into the camera, begging the REC to buy Cyrus Kouandjio away from Auburn to save his incompetent arse from being exposed...

Again, Tom Tuberville with resources.


You realize he brought in a monster class at LSU after winning the title, right?

Why am I asking you. Of course you don't. If it didn't happen in the last five years, your sort can't comprehend it happening at all.
Posted by aufbfan
Member since Jan 2015
760 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:05 pm to
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You realize he brought in a monster class at LSU after winning the title, right?

Ok? And he went 9-3 in 2004.

Again, Tom Tuberville with the most willing booster club in the history of amateur sports.

Except Tubs wasn’t complicit in covering up systemic academic fraud with the current NCAA president...
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 12:07 pm
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:08 pm to
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Ok? And he went 9-3 in 2004.


You mean a class of freshmen didn't dominate the world? My God, how could that be?

They did win the NC in 2007, oddly enough. You may remember that year as the year you started potty training.
Posted by aufbfan
Member since Jan 2015
760 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:11 pm to
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You mean a class of freshmen didn't dominate the world? My God, how could that be?
How many of his recruiting classes were on campus by the time 2004 rolled around?
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:17 pm to
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How many of his recruiting classes were on campus by the time 2004 rolled around?


What does that have to do with anything? You are throwing a hissy fit at the idea that Saban could have been a successful recruiter and coach without the REC. I pointed out he was pretty damned successful at LSU. Stop moving the goalposts. When your argument is that he won an NC before he lost three games in a season (i.e. the Auburn Gold Standard) with recruiting classes that weren't on his current level, you've really started grasping at -- and probably licking lasciviously -- some weak straws.
Posted by aufbfan
Member since Jan 2015
760 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:25 pm to
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What does that have to do with anything?
Um, his winning percentage with 5 years worth of classes HE recruited?

I thought that was pretty obvious.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15708 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:50 pm to
I've seen some delusional shite on this website, but you're on a whole new level of stupid.

Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:52 pm to
This is Nick's last year...Duke is the opener...ez kick off for the new coach
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:59 pm to
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Um, his winning percentage with 5 years worth of classes HE recruited?

I thought that was pretty obvious.


Had that been your argument, it would have been obvious. It was not. You completely changed what you wanted to prove. I'm not going to keep changing topics so you feel less stupid.
Posted by aufbfan
Member since Jan 2015
760 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 1:10 pm to
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Had that been your argument,
My argument was his striking similarity to Tom Tuberville before he had unprecedented RECruiting help from Bama.

As his entire career showed, he was about as successful a coach as Tom Tubervillle before Bama.

Again, thought this was obvious. Then you randomly cited one of his five recruiting classes out of left field as some kind of point you were trying to make and here we are.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 1:19 pm to
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My argument was his striking similarity to Tom Tuberville before he had unprecedented RECruiting help from Bama.

As his entire career showed, he was about as successful a coach as Tom Tubervillle before Bama.

Again, thought this was obvious. Then you randomly cited one of his five recruiting classes out of left field as some kind of point you were trying to make and here we are.


Dude. This whole "pretending" isn't going to work on me. You were making a huge issue out of his recruiting success being bought and paid for by the REC. I was pointing out he was successful recruiting before that. I have absolutely no interest in playing along with the topic change. Maybe that helps you win arguments with your baby brother or something, but it doesn't hold water here.

And your joke about Tuberville was amusing, but only the first time you told it. Saban took over a program every bit as in the doldrums as OM and never had a single season where he won fewer than 8 games. Tubbs only managed to win 8 games once at OM. Oh, and that pesky NC thing. Part of me wants to twist the screws and point out Tubbs never won an NC, but seeing as I'm not a frickwit like you, I'll say 2004 was just bad luck for him and any other year would have gotten him a shot.
Posted by aufbfan
Member since Jan 2015
760 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 1:33 pm to
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Dude. This whole "pretending" isn't going to work on me. Y
The only pretending being done is you pretending Saban at LSU was recruiting on a consistent level even close to what he’s done at Bama.

Seems you’re also pretending Saban had more than 2 10-win seasons in his first 12 years as a college HC... exactly like that pesky Tom Tuberville.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 1:34 pm
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