re: What is a "dual threat" QB in your eyes?

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If a defensive coordinator isn’t installing his gameplan for the week with his running ability at the forefront of his concerns, he’s not a dual threat.

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It feels like you assume the passing is there though.

Eric Crouch was an incredible runner and teams schemed to stop his running and had to account for him in the option game.

But nobody schemed to stop him throwing the ball. Yes he was a running QB... but he was run only. Is that "Dual Threat"?

I kind of view Riley Leonard for ND in the same way. He's a good runner and UGA will focus on his running ability. But I don't think they'll be afraid of his passing ability in game-planning. He's still got a single threat... it's just that threat is running, not passing.

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A poster on here basically said Riley sucks because he doesn’t have a lot of passing yards. Period. Couldn’t name anything else bad about him. I would argue that he doesn’t have a lot of passing yards because ND is more of a run dominant team and they don’t get into a lot of 3rd and longs so he’s not asked to pass as much. He’s also one of the better running QBs out there and the stats bear that out. Plus I hear he brings other intangibles as well. Add all that up and that makes him an above average college QB in my book. To say he sucks just bc he doesn’t have a ton of passing yards is lazy

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He's never had a successful passing game this year though.

It's not like his average numbers are bad but he's had a couple of good games. His BEST game this year was 229 yards passing against Stanford.

The one game ND lost the best he could do is 163 yards with 2 picks against NIU. That's when they NEEDED him to pass... and he failed. Passer ratings below 140 aren't very good and that's where he's lived most of the year. 104 vs A&M, 92 vs NIU, 127 vs Purdue, 128 vs Miami of Ohio, 120 vs GT 131 vs FSU, 128 vis Indiana.

And it's not just this year. Last year his best game was 248 vs UCONN. He's not a good passer as shown by his yardage numbers and his efficiency numbers (like passer rating).

I don't think it's lazy to say he's bad at passing because he's... passed badly. I think that's a pretty reasonable way to look at it.

Taylen Green is a true DT QB. Great passer, great runner. I saw him throw a ton of perfect passes to the other team. Hits them right in the hands.

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I don't think it's lazy to say he's bad at passing because he's... passed badly. I think that's a pretty reasonable way to look at it.

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Holy shite . You’re all over the place. You said he was a bad college QB multiple times. Do you use bad passer and bad college QB interchangeably? You can argue he’s not a good passer. You can’t argue that he’s a decent College QB IMO when you add the other things he brings to the table. Tired of arguing this w you ad nauseum. Done

IMO, a dual-threat QB can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Jayden Daniels, Cam Newton, Burrow, Manziel, and so on.

Athletes gifted enough to make the DC choose their poison.

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Holy shite . You’re all over the place. You said he was a bad college QB multiple times. Do you use bad passer and bad college QB interchangeably? You can argue he’s not a good passer. You can’t argue that he’s a decent College QB IMO when you add the other things he brings to the table. Tired of arguing this w you ad nauseum. Done

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Good for you.

Yes, a college QB who can't pass to a minimum viable level is bad unless your team runs the triple option.

There's a reason why the wildcat isn't the primary offense for teams. Being able to pass is the most important part of being a college QB. Running is a plus added to a QB who can pass. It's not a replacement for being able to pass.

Fumble or interception

Leonard is a terrible quarterback.