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What does football look like to you going forward?
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:32 pm
With the transfer portal opening more and NIL do these schools have to each have a full time booster staff in place to start redistributing money if let's say an unexpected sophomore has a breakout season? Does every g5 school from this point lose their best player to a p5 contender if they are approached? If so at what point do the g5 schools just stop trying? I know this topic has been discussed a million times but just thinking about the way things work out sometimes, if a Kyle Trask type situation where a relatively unknown lower ranked recruit goes and wins the starting job early in the season and you have 2 other qbs that were much higher ranked and received lucrative NIL deals sitting on the bench do you see a scenario where the Kyle Trask of that group opts to sit out until he gets equal or more NIL money?
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Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:34 pm to themicah85
Who’s to say Trask doesn’t say F U and transfer somewhere else to be the big dog getting all the attention and NIL?
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:35 pm to themicah85
Lots of tAlignment
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:37 pm to themicah85
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transfer portal opening
This will be interesting to see what this means long term.
Recruiting will always always always mean more since most players stay put to where they originally signed.
But it has to mean less to a degree with players being able to switch so easily. To what degree? I’m not sure.
In no way am I’m predicting some monster season for us but we’ve literally gone from starting a GA assistant last year to now having a 5-star, all Big 12 QB. His favorite TE also joined us.
We also nabbed Wake Forest’s leading rusher and one of NC State’s DEs who got regular playing time.
Point is, team rosters can change at a ridiculous pace now and can make potential turnarounds (in either direction) more pronounced.
This post was edited on 8/2/22 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 8/2/22 at 10:39 pm to phil4bama
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Who’s to say Trask doesn’t say F U and transfer somewhere else to be the big dog getting all the attention and NIL?
That's entirely possible. I guess that's sort of the question. Look at Jordan Addison, he won the acc and the bilitnekoff and still opted to transfer to a school with a first year head coach and some NIL money.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 11:15 pm to themicah85
Don’t really give a shite about it anymore. At least I was able to attend the SEC title and both playoff games with my dad to watch the Tigahs take home the title in the last real season of CFB ever
Posted on 8/2/22 at 11:24 pm to themicah85
They're already treating it like a Pro sports team in the LA media a 4-7 team is going to win the NC.
From the LA Times:
Heat is on Lincoln Riley and USC to earn College Football Playoff spot
Opinion by Bill Plaschke
They have a millionaire coach who lives in a mansion.
They have a charismatic quarterback with a huddle full of endorsements.
They are loaded with high-priced free agents who came here for a chance to reap the rewards of Hollywood.
To nobody’s surprise, they have become Los Angeles’ most popular professional football team, rich and rollicking and seemingly headed this winter for SoFi Stadium stardom.
The Rams? Think again. The Chargers? Nice try.
It is, of course, the USC Trojans, college football’s merry band of opportunists who head into this season with stars in their eyes and a target on their back.
Anything less than a spot in the College Football Playoff just won’t do.
Even that might not be enough, just listen to the man who started all this ruckus.
At Pac-12 media day Friday, I asked new USC coach Lincoln Riley for his expectations for this season.
“To win the championship,” he said.
The championship. This season. Win it. OK!
The CFP title game is at SoFi Stadium on Jan. 9, so, yeah, this is an incredibly high and dramatic bar set by a 38-year-old dude who came here from Oklahoma eight months ago and promptly turned a 4-8 team into the game’s hottest destination.
“We didn't come here to play for second, we are not wired that way,” Riley said. “We came here competitively to win championships, win them now and to win them for a long time.”
A nation-leading 20 kids have transferred to USC from other schools. At least that many have been forced out of the program. The money is flowing, the promises are soaring, the program has been turned on its helmet, and you know what that means.
The pressure starts now. The honeymoon ends here. Even before the first summer practice sweat, the heat is on.
“The reality is if there's no pressure, then you probably don't have the same opportunities as others do,” Riley said, adding, “The opportunity is, if you do it well, anything is possible. This is one of those places. This is one of those programs. Frankly, this is one of those cities that if you do it well here, the sky's the absolute limit. I believe it's there for our football team.”
So much, so fast, so unnerving. Has there ever been a team in this town under more deserved preseason scrutiny than this one? Has there ever been a college team anywhere that will enter a season with more unearned swagger?
They should win? No, they better win. All this, and they have yet to take an official snap.
“I would reiterate again, we didn’t come here to play for second,” Riley said.
It’s good that college athletes are finally getting paid. It’s fair that college athletes are finally able to transfer and become immediately eligible. The college athletes have long been the backbone of this billion-dollar industry and deserve to be compensated for it. Whatever they get, they’ve earned it.
Yet it’s a bit unsettling when this confluence of changes occurs in such dramatic fashion at a place where the drama has always been rooted in tradition. Never have USC fans been asked to cheer for so many complete strangers. Never before has it been so abundantly clear that these strangers are only here for the money and the football.
Fittingly, for the first time in memory, the two players USC brought to Pac-12 media day to represent the university probably still have trouble finding their way around campus. They were quarterback Caleb Williams and linebacker Shane Lee, two highly touted transfers from Oklahoma and Alabama, respectively.
Said Lee: “Our focus is on getting the culture right.”
Said Williams: “USC is a blue blood, simple as that. Teams … have rough moments, that’s what USC has had. We’re here to try to turn that around.”
Williams is the centerpiece of the Trojans' remodel and the best example of the new era. He is a transfer from Oklahoma who already has several endorsement deals despite starting only eight college games.
I asked what he would consider a successful season.
“Win every game,” he said.
His main target will be Jordan Addison, a transfer from Pittsburgh who was voted the country’s best wide receiver last season and now will be its best dressed. When Addison showed up, he asked for Carson Palmer’s retired No. 3 jersey. This put Palmer in an impossible position. He could never say no, even if he wanted to say no. So, with Palmer’s very public blessing, USC regrettably gave the kid the number.
No, this is not the same thing as former athletic director Mike Garrett giving Darnell Bing his No. 20 in 2005. It was Bing’s senior season, and Garrett considered it a reward for dedicated service.
In Addison’s case, it feels more like a recruiting tool. He’ll play one year here and go to the NFL. The jersey giveaway feels like a direct hit on Trojan tradition.
Imagine the increased pressure on Addison. He drops a ball wearing a Heisman Trophy jersey? The crowd won’t be thrilled.
USC has another great transfer wide receiver in Oklahoma’s Mario Williams, and a great transfer running back in Oregon’s Travis Dye. They should score 50 points a game. Problem is, they could give up 60.
Riley doesn’t really do defense. The numbers 54, 45, and 63 represent the points scored by opponents in three of his four bowl games at Oklahoma.
He hopes transfers like Lee, Arizona State’s Eric Gentry, Colorado’s Mekhi Blackmon and Auburn’s Romello Height will help change that narrative.
But nobody knows. Nobody has seen this remodeled-down-to-the-studs team in action. In reality, they’re one of college football’s most unknown quantities.
They must win anyway. Win big. Win often. Win that championship.
“My expectations are extremely high,” said Riley. “I mean, again, this is a go-for-it kind of place.”
This is also a boo-at-it kind of place. Kudos to the Trojans for going for it, but understand one thing.
It will get real ugly, real quick, if they don’t get there.
Column: Heat is on Lincoln Riley and USC to earn College Football Playoff spot
LINK
The USC Trojans are college football's merry band of opportunists who head into this season with stars in their eyes. Anything short of the CFP won't do.
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he won the acc and the bilitnekoff and still opted to transfer to a school with a first year head coach and some NIL money.
From the LA Times:
Heat is on Lincoln Riley and USC to earn College Football Playoff spot
Opinion by Bill Plaschke
They have a millionaire coach who lives in a mansion.
They have a charismatic quarterback with a huddle full of endorsements.
They are loaded with high-priced free agents who came here for a chance to reap the rewards of Hollywood.
To nobody’s surprise, they have become Los Angeles’ most popular professional football team, rich and rollicking and seemingly headed this winter for SoFi Stadium stardom.
The Rams? Think again. The Chargers? Nice try.
It is, of course, the USC Trojans, college football’s merry band of opportunists who head into this season with stars in their eyes and a target on their back.
Anything less than a spot in the College Football Playoff just won’t do.
Even that might not be enough, just listen to the man who started all this ruckus.
At Pac-12 media day Friday, I asked new USC coach Lincoln Riley for his expectations for this season.
“To win the championship,” he said.
The championship. This season. Win it. OK!
The CFP title game is at SoFi Stadium on Jan. 9, so, yeah, this is an incredibly high and dramatic bar set by a 38-year-old dude who came here from Oklahoma eight months ago and promptly turned a 4-8 team into the game’s hottest destination.
“We didn't come here to play for second, we are not wired that way,” Riley said. “We came here competitively to win championships, win them now and to win them for a long time.”
A nation-leading 20 kids have transferred to USC from other schools. At least that many have been forced out of the program. The money is flowing, the promises are soaring, the program has been turned on its helmet, and you know what that means.
The pressure starts now. The honeymoon ends here. Even before the first summer practice sweat, the heat is on.
“The reality is if there's no pressure, then you probably don't have the same opportunities as others do,” Riley said, adding, “The opportunity is, if you do it well, anything is possible. This is one of those places. This is one of those programs. Frankly, this is one of those cities that if you do it well here, the sky's the absolute limit. I believe it's there for our football team.”
So much, so fast, so unnerving. Has there ever been a team in this town under more deserved preseason scrutiny than this one? Has there ever been a college team anywhere that will enter a season with more unearned swagger?
They should win? No, they better win. All this, and they have yet to take an official snap.
“I would reiterate again, we didn’t come here to play for second,” Riley said.
It’s good that college athletes are finally getting paid. It’s fair that college athletes are finally able to transfer and become immediately eligible. The college athletes have long been the backbone of this billion-dollar industry and deserve to be compensated for it. Whatever they get, they’ve earned it.
Yet it’s a bit unsettling when this confluence of changes occurs in such dramatic fashion at a place where the drama has always been rooted in tradition. Never have USC fans been asked to cheer for so many complete strangers. Never before has it been so abundantly clear that these strangers are only here for the money and the football.
Fittingly, for the first time in memory, the two players USC brought to Pac-12 media day to represent the university probably still have trouble finding their way around campus. They were quarterback Caleb Williams and linebacker Shane Lee, two highly touted transfers from Oklahoma and Alabama, respectively.
Said Lee: “Our focus is on getting the culture right.”
Said Williams: “USC is a blue blood, simple as that. Teams … have rough moments, that’s what USC has had. We’re here to try to turn that around.”
Williams is the centerpiece of the Trojans' remodel and the best example of the new era. He is a transfer from Oklahoma who already has several endorsement deals despite starting only eight college games.
I asked what he would consider a successful season.
“Win every game,” he said.
His main target will be Jordan Addison, a transfer from Pittsburgh who was voted the country’s best wide receiver last season and now will be its best dressed. When Addison showed up, he asked for Carson Palmer’s retired No. 3 jersey. This put Palmer in an impossible position. He could never say no, even if he wanted to say no. So, with Palmer’s very public blessing, USC regrettably gave the kid the number.
No, this is not the same thing as former athletic director Mike Garrett giving Darnell Bing his No. 20 in 2005. It was Bing’s senior season, and Garrett considered it a reward for dedicated service.
In Addison’s case, it feels more like a recruiting tool. He’ll play one year here and go to the NFL. The jersey giveaway feels like a direct hit on Trojan tradition.
Imagine the increased pressure on Addison. He drops a ball wearing a Heisman Trophy jersey? The crowd won’t be thrilled.
USC has another great transfer wide receiver in Oklahoma’s Mario Williams, and a great transfer running back in Oregon’s Travis Dye. They should score 50 points a game. Problem is, they could give up 60.
Riley doesn’t really do defense. The numbers 54, 45, and 63 represent the points scored by opponents in three of his four bowl games at Oklahoma.
He hopes transfers like Lee, Arizona State’s Eric Gentry, Colorado’s Mekhi Blackmon and Auburn’s Romello Height will help change that narrative.
But nobody knows. Nobody has seen this remodeled-down-to-the-studs team in action. In reality, they’re one of college football’s most unknown quantities.
They must win anyway. Win big. Win often. Win that championship.
“My expectations are extremely high,” said Riley. “I mean, again, this is a go-for-it kind of place.”
This is also a boo-at-it kind of place. Kudos to the Trojans for going for it, but understand one thing.
It will get real ugly, real quick, if they don’t get there.
Column: Heat is on Lincoln Riley and USC to earn College Football Playoff spot
LINK
The USC Trojans are college football's merry band of opportunists who head into this season with stars in their eyes. Anything short of the CFP won't do.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 11:39 pm to Yukons Worst
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The college athletes have long been the backbone of this billion-dollar industry
This is laughably false. Without the alumni and fan support college football is nothing. Complete roster turnover every 4 years and the fans still keep it going. We don’t give af who the players are. Replace them all with D3 talent and it wouldn’t matter. We like to cheer for our alma mater or favorite school.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 11:56 pm to DeltaFishTiger
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This is laughably false. Without the alumni and fan support college football is nothing. Complete roster turnover every 4 years and the fans still keep it going. We don’t give af who the players are. Replace them all with D3 talent and it wouldn’t matter. We like to cheer for our alma mater or favorite school.
I agree 100%, do you think I've continued to watch Tennessee football every Saturday for the last 2 decades because we're constantly competing for titles? Absolutely not and the same could be said for nearly every SEC school. Saban didn't walk in to an empty stadium and a campus full of people that didn't give a shite because they hadn't competed for years. I honestly think it would be pretty deserving if the g5 separated entirely and all the college football fans started watching MTSU vs ULM instead of LSU vs UT because it was actual college football while the sec vs big 10 paid players challenge turned into the xfl. Truth be told if you want to watch the absolute best in the business play football every week you should have never given a shite about your favorite college or high-school in the first place.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:56 am to themicah85
It will develop the worst aspects of the NFL with none of the parity built in. College football as we all grew up with it is over and I think it will take a real love or unbreakable viewing habit to stick with it beyond a very casual fanbase. It will still pull viewers and make money, but the NIL/transfer portal reality will push it well past its peak years.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:07 am to themicah85
Posted on 8/3/22 at 7:28 am to themicah85
It looks like Armageddon too me.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 7:30 am to bamaoldtimer
Does it look like your 5th CFP loss in 8 tries?
Posted on 8/3/22 at 7:42 am to themicah85
At some point NIL deals will have consequences for players if they transfer out. A payback of X amount or something.
NIL with current free agency cannot work long term for 95% of the schools.
NIL with current free agency cannot work long term for 95% of the schools.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 7:59 am to Oilfieldbiology
a quality football is a beautiful thing. The smell of it, the grain of if, the shape of it. It's great.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 8:37 am to themicah85
actual 'college' football looks like this going forward ... FCS
FCS long ago already figured out how to have a full season, geographically aligned conferences - and a
**now get this** ~ a 24 team playoff.
FCS long ago already figured out how to have a full season, geographically aligned conferences - and a
**now get this** ~ a 24 team playoff.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 8:44 am to themicah85
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:16 am to themicah85
To me, it looks like a lot of people won't be watching anymore
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:22 am to themicah85
A discombobulated mess that eventually kills the sport as we know it.
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