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re: We're about to see what Kirby Smart and Georgia are really made of.

Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:08 am to
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:08 am to
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And if you think that any of those questions would result in some sort of major roadblock for the football program going forward you’re delusional. Let’s go with a hypothetical let’s say Lecroy and Willock had a relationship and that she was drunk while driving a vehicle that was rented by the university. What exactly do you think would happen? A settlement for the Willock family covered by the universities umbrella insurance and stricter guidelines regarding recruiting hostesses. That’s it.


It depends on what the NCAA would call it. None of us know that.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:10 am to
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:11 am to
lol so your stance is that the NCAA is going to step in with some sort of sanctions because of this situation? Really? Would you wager on that?
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 9:12 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:13 am to
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lol so your stance is that the NCAA is going to step in with some sort of sanctions because of this situation? Really? Would you wager on that?


First, I don't wager. On anything. Ever.

Second, I don't have any idea of what the NCAA may or may not do. Nor do you. But I do know I wouldn't want them snooping around my place either.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 9:15 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:15 am to
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Why was a university employee out with a student athlete at 2am. Were any university funds used at said establishment?
Were they in a rented UGA vehicle?
Were they intoxicated?
What was the nature of the relationship between the athletes and employees?

None of these lead to long term issue for UGA imo, assuming that the staff in question were violating UGA policy to make any of the above mistakes on their own volition.

It would certainly lead to the school being liable, but it’s not reasonable to expect them to be monitoring employees and enforcing their policies at all hours.
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:18 am to
And you should Google Willock’s fathers response to Mr.Wiley calling an impromptu press conference. And even if they do sue (which the Willock’s said they aren’t) it’ll just get settled out of court.
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:21 am to
Also the guy wasn’t even hired by the family. He took it upon himself to speak out because his firm had an NIL deal with Willock and like I said Willock’s dad made him look like a fool when he said he didn’t know why the guy called a press conference and they weren’t attending
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:22 am to
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None of these lead to long term issue for UGA imo, assuming that the staff in question were violating UGA policy to make any of the above mistakes on their own volition.


Understanding that you have an optimistic view of the situation as a UGA fan, could this not be construed as the aforementioned "Lack of institutional control"? Seems like the NCAA likes to use that one to pigeon hole things that don't fit elsewhere.

Also while NIL allow individuals to compensate student athletes it does not allow the same for the University. What happens if it's shown that University funds were being spent on athletes in the establishment in the form of alcohol or other things before they left? It's speculative at this point, but that's a whole other level.

Again, just spit balling here. We are talking hypotheticals.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 9:25 am
Posted by Dawg4Life47
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:24 am to
Dude stop you are reaching so hard this morning.

Nothing will come of this

GA will be just fine, likely 3 peat and we will bump this thread in 10 months on 12/1 just before the SECG.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:25 am to
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GA will be just fine, likely 3 peat and we will bump this thread in 10 months on 12/1 just before the SECG.



If you do, Please do. I'd be the first to congratulate you.
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:26 am to
Go back and look at the history of cases of lack of institutional control and then compare them to this situation and then hopefully you’ll realize how ridiculous it is that that’s what y’all are pinning your hopes to.
Posted by JubileeCity
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Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:29 am to
Ok, you keep believing that.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:31 am to
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:34 am to
If nothing else looks like Smart might have to ban recruits and players from Toppers
Posted by Dawgvet
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:36 am to
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Roy T Willey IV


You mean the guy that is not licensed to practice law in Georgia?



Also IF he is representing the family, he is doing a shitty job of keeping his “clients” informed.

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A press conference called by a personal injury law firm for Thursday afternoon that was to include the parents of Georgia football player Devin Willock was pushed back and then held without them.

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Dave Willock told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution he only learned of the press conference from seeing it on the news and that he does not plan any legal action at this time.


Posted by tgdawg68
Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:37 am to
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Ok, you keep believing that.


This is no more 'lack of institutional control' than having an enrolled athlete commit murder.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:04 am to
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I'm 100% serious. UGA fans need to figure this out quickly; this situation is not to be trifled with
Why do UGA fans need to do anything about it? It was a tragedy regardless of what happened before it.

If wrongdoing occurred, I hope the AD staff addresses it and reminds current staff and players of their responsibilities to the code of conduct I’m sure they have.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:05 am to
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Why do UGA fans need to do anything about it?


Maybe I should have said, come to terms with it? That was the intent of the comment.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:08 am to
This is wishcasting at its finest. I am sure there will be complete investigation, changes at the UGA AD in response to the findings of this tragedy, etc. I don’t think this is gonna “take down” the UGA AD. But you can keep dreaming.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:10 am to
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could this not be construed as the aforementioned "Lack of institutional control"?

Because a staffer broke clear policies (I’m assuming) and went to a strip club with some athletes? I’m not sure how that would be lack of institutional control. UGA can’t lock up their staff and players at night. If this was common practice among UGA staff, that would be very different.
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What happens if it's shown that University funds were being spent on athletes in the establishment in the form of alcohol or other things before they left?

That would obviously be an issue but there’s no indication that that happened.
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