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Weird talk of 2 or 3 Super Conferences
Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:21 am
Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:21 am
Keep seeing people throwing out talk of 2 (sometimes 3) super conferences when the dust settles.
This is a completely ludicrous suggestion, imo.
The sport has to stay healthy, and this would kill it in much of the country.
What good is dominating a dying sport?
More than 16 is unmanageable. I think 16 is pushing it and is borderline unmanageable. There are diminishing returns and at too big, what’s the point of even being in a conference?
Geography is a factor as well. The United States is a big country. Four conferences of 16 teams makes too much sense. North, South, East and West.
This is a completely ludicrous suggestion, imo.
The sport has to stay healthy, and this would kill it in much of the country.
What good is dominating a dying sport?
More than 16 is unmanageable. I think 16 is pushing it and is borderline unmanageable. There are diminishing returns and at too big, what’s the point of even being in a conference?
Geography is a factor as well. The United States is a big country. Four conferences of 16 teams makes too much sense. North, South, East and West.
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:25 am to Bjorn Cyborg
With the introduction of an expanded playoff, conference alignment serves no purpose other than revenue for member institutions. With the introduction of NIL rules, expanding playoffs, and record breaking TV contracts, traditional conference alignment is a thing of the past.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:27 am to Tuscaloosa
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expanding playoffs,
This affects a small percentage of teams.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:30 am to Bjorn Cyborg
This isn't your fathers CFB man. This is happening and you need to accept it. Yes, it's bad for the overall sport but it's about making money now, not the health of CFB.
The only thing you can do to discourage it is stop paying for TV, stop giving LSU money and write a strongly worded letter to your AD. It won't stop it but unless you do those things the blood is on your hands too.
The only thing you can do to discourage it is stop paying for TV, stop giving LSU money and write a strongly worded letter to your AD. It won't stop it but unless you do those things the blood is on your hands too.
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 11:33 am
Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:33 am to Bjorn Cyborg
The talk of 2 or 3 super conferences looks like it has legs
Too many “name brand” schools look to be getting left behind (notably Kansas, OK State & West VA in the Big 12)
If there is any truth to the smoke surrounding FSU & Clemson, then all bets are off
With schools like UNC, Miami & GA Tech getting potentially left behind, expect to see some real fireworks
Too many “name brand” schools look to be getting left behind (notably Kansas, OK State & West VA in the Big 12)
If there is any truth to the smoke surrounding FSU & Clemson, then all bets are off
With schools like UNC, Miami & GA Tech getting potentially left behind, expect to see some real fireworks
Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:34 am to dcbl
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If there is any truth to the smoke surrounding FSU & Clemson, then all bets are off
There’s not. That’s the point.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:55 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:you may be correct, but a month ago, people would have said you were crazy with the Texas & Oklahoma “rumors”
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If there is any truth to the smoke surrounding FSU & Clemson, then all bets are off
There’s not. That’s the point.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:06 pm to dcbl
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you may be correct, but a month ago, people would have said you were crazy with the Texas & Oklahoma “rumors”
Wrong. Those rumors have been going around for years, and the Big 12 is a dying conference.
The ACC has a weak TV deal, but is still very viable.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:14 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
EAPN is ruining college football. All of this is an attempt to ultimately destroy football in th south. they can t stand it that the south dominates in football. Texas is poisonous to any conference because they feel like they are better than others. They will be run of the mill shite in the SEC which is what they have actually always been.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:17 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
We’ve just about reached the point where there’s no reason for conferences.
Schools will schedule games on their own.
Schools will schedule games on their own.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:17 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
The CFP or bust mentality has already messed up college football. Expanding conferences is just a way to get more money.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:19 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Wrong. Those rumors have been going around for years, and the Big 12 is a dying conference.
The ACC has a weak TV deal, but is still very viable.
ACC is absolutely viable, but not without FSU and Clemson
So, I do think you are correct and that those rumors are just that (rumors)
But I also did not think the OK could leave for a new conference without OK State (much like VA & VA Tech)
If/when TX & OK come over, I can see that starting a real domino affect, the ACC and B1G will almost certainly merge and the PAC 12 will likely have to make a move as well
I’m just saying that things will probably get even more interesting on this alignment front
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:24 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
For the OP
Everyone would love to have a neat and tidy regionally split 4 conference football alignment. But too many moving parts along with stubborn university presidents, politics, old-timers keeping common sense moves from happening might prevent that ideal.
Texas is partially to blame for this. Notre Dame as well. This could have been settled and finished 10 years ago. Since 2010 1 conference of our current P5 was going to die along with the BIG EAST. It was just going to be which one. Most vulnerable were the BIG12 / ACC. They still are.
The 11 team BIG10 in 2010 really wanted to add all or some of Notre Dame, Maryland Virginia, North Carolina, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami (FL) before they settled on just Nebraska.
ACC had some VERY tenuous moments of whether they were going to make it or not.
When they didn't get the other eastern schools BIG10 should have gone ahead and invited Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri to go with Rutgers and Maryland. That would have probably forced the BIG12 to dissolve then.
This won't finish in a way that makes sense because survival ego and greed are at the center of it. so buckle up because its happening.
The sport will actually be better. 128 D1 teams are way too many and quite ridiculous. a concentrated product will make the sport better. question is how concentrated?
Everyone would love to have a neat and tidy regionally split 4 conference football alignment. But too many moving parts along with stubborn university presidents, politics, old-timers keeping common sense moves from happening might prevent that ideal.
Texas is partially to blame for this. Notre Dame as well. This could have been settled and finished 10 years ago. Since 2010 1 conference of our current P5 was going to die along with the BIG EAST. It was just going to be which one. Most vulnerable were the BIG12 / ACC. They still are.
The 11 team BIG10 in 2010 really wanted to add all or some of Notre Dame, Maryland Virginia, North Carolina, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami (FL) before they settled on just Nebraska.
ACC had some VERY tenuous moments of whether they were going to make it or not.
When they didn't get the other eastern schools BIG10 should have gone ahead and invited Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri to go with Rutgers and Maryland. That would have probably forced the BIG12 to dissolve then.
This won't finish in a way that makes sense because survival ego and greed are at the center of it. so buckle up because its happening.
The sport will actually be better. 128 D1 teams are way too many and quite ridiculous. a concentrated product will make the sport better. question is how concentrated?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:25 pm to EKG
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We’ve just about reached the point where there’s no reason for conferences.
Schools will schedule games on their own.
Yet the same people who are currently in charge just developed a playoff system where a conference championship is THE most important factor.
So, you are wrong.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:26 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
It’s about separation from the NCAA. It will happen because the haves and the have nots have too large of a gap to be regulated by the same organization.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:29 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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people who are currently in charge just developed a playoff system where a conference championship is THE most important factor.
so, IF this stays the same and the other conferences stand pat after the SEC jumps to 16 teams, then we are all but assured to see 2 SEC teams in the playoff every year and the new question will be whether or not we can get 3 in
The other conferences won’t stand for that, I can’t see them rolling over like that...
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:44 pm to dcbl
Simple math will tell you the SEC will get a minimum of three in.
This is not news
This is not news
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:49 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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expanding playoffs,
This affects a small percentage of teams.
Even if they expand to 16, there will still be 80 teams that will never sniff the playoffs during the lifetimes of anyone on this board. Hell, not even during the lifetimes of their grandchildren.
Vandy, Illinois, Wake Forest, Louisiana-Monroe, etc, etc, etc...aren't getting in even a 16 team playoff in 100 years.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 1:13 pm to V Bainbridge
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This isn't your fathers CFB man. This is happening and you need to accept it. Yes, it's bad for the overall sport but it's about making money now, not the health of CFB.
Doesn't seem very smart to ruin the cash cow for one massive payday.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 1:36 pm to bgtiger
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It’s about separation from the NCAA. It will happen because the haves and the have nots have too large of a gap to be regulated by the same organization.
Bingo. The SEC also wants to protect all of its members. The super conferences will make their own rules and govern themselves. The NCAA will not be involved, and all SEC schools will be included in the new era.
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