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We don't need 8 teams in the playoff, we need four balanced conferences
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:12 am
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:12 am
The SEC was damn near being left out of the first CFB playoff. We need all the major conference champs to get in, and we need 4 balanced conferences.
There are three teams that must be in this year: Florida State, despite being in a weak conference, added some decent nonconference games with Ok St and Notre Dame, and Florida. They went undefeated against that, you have to put them in.
Alabama and Oregon won the best two conferences in football, respectively, and each added a legitimate nonconference game (Mich State being considerably better than WVU, but both are legit). With one loss each, they are locks.
There is no plausible way to determine the fourth slot. Ohio State won a weak conference, and played ONE marginally decent out of conference game, which they lost at home by two touchdowns. Baylor should be the B12 champs, but the conference is trying to game the system (if they had a championship game, this would be moot). Baylor played NOBODY out of conference. At least TCU played a pretty good Minnesota team out of conference, but they lost to Baylor. What a shitshow.
I have been saying we need 8 teams, but I was wrong. We need 4 teams. We just need a decent reorganization of the conferences and a consistent method of determining the champion.
There are three teams that must be in this year: Florida State, despite being in a weak conference, added some decent nonconference games with Ok St and Notre Dame, and Florida. They went undefeated against that, you have to put them in.
Alabama and Oregon won the best two conferences in football, respectively, and each added a legitimate nonconference game (Mich State being considerably better than WVU, but both are legit). With one loss each, they are locks.
There is no plausible way to determine the fourth slot. Ohio State won a weak conference, and played ONE marginally decent out of conference game, which they lost at home by two touchdowns. Baylor should be the B12 champs, but the conference is trying to game the system (if they had a championship game, this would be moot). Baylor played NOBODY out of conference. At least TCU played a pretty good Minnesota team out of conference, but they lost to Baylor. What a shitshow.
I have been saying we need 8 teams, but I was wrong. We need 4 teams. We just need a decent reorganization of the conferences and a consistent method of determining the champion.
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:21 am to Crimson Legend
5 conference champs and 3 top-rated non-conference champs determined by BCS formula.
Goodbye committee.
If you're on the bubble of #8/#9/#10:
-- You're lucky to be there if you make it,
-- If you don't make it, you don't have an argument.
So simple, a 'tard can understand it.
Goodbye committee.
If you're on the bubble of #8/#9/#10:
-- You're lucky to be there if you make it,
-- If you don't make it, you don't have an argument.
So simple, a 'tard can understand it.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:22 am to Crimson Legend
8 teams.
The champ for the big 5 + 3 at large.
The champ for the big 5 + 3 at large.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:23 am to Crimson Legend
To add to this... Why would anyone in their right mind want the SEC to go to 9 games under the current format?
The West damn near cannibalized themselves into oblivion.
Auto entry for a conference winner would solve most ills and de-incentivize scheduling OOC cupcakes.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:39 am to Mizz-SEC
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To add to this... Why would anyone in their right mind want the SEC to go to 9 games under the current format?
The West damn near cannibalized themselves into oblivion.
Auto entry for a conference winner would solve most ills and de-incentivize scheduling OOC cupcakes.
Well said.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:44 am to Crimson Legend
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To add to this... Why would anyone in their right mind want the SEC to go to 9 games under the current format?
The West damn near cannibalized themselves into oblivion.
Auto entry for a conference winner would solve most ills and de-incentivize scheduling OOC cupcakes.
Well said.
I think just the opposite would happen if a conference winner was automatically receive an invite to the playoff. Because the conference winner would only have to concern itself with its conference calls, there is no incentive to schedule a tough OOC schedule. Is my thinking incorrect?
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:51 am to Crimson Legend
So dumb.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:53 am to LC412000
Create 4 balanced conferences, and only schedule games among those conferences. The athletic departments will never accept less revenue from the extra home games, but it would be a huge improvement in the sport.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:56 am to Crimson Legend
You can't "create" 4 balanced conferences.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:59 am to TeLeFaWx
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You can't "create" 4 balanced conferences.
You're right. It could be done, but it's not practical to believe that it would happen in the real world.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:22 am to Crimson Legend
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We need all the major conference champs to get in, and we need 4 balanced conferences.
Yeah, well, we need world peace also. I never get the point of starting threads saying we need shite that would never happen in a million years. Who in their right mind actually thinks that one of power five conferences ever would agree to being dissolved?
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I have been saying we need 8 teams, but I was wrong.
No shite. I have no idea why in the hell anyone would have ever thought that the #7 or 8 team in the country should be playing for the national championship, and Arizona proved that...as has Michigan State.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:22 am to Crimson Legend
Who in their right mind decided to have a four team playoff with five conferences? It's a recipe for disaster that in its first year makes the BCS look brilliant.
Big12 trying to game it's way in and hedge its bets.
frick Texas and its 9 cronies. I hope OSU gets in and the B12 gets hosed.
Big12 trying to game it's way in and hedge its bets.
frick Texas and its 9 cronies. I hope OSU gets in and the B12 gets hosed.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:24 am to Crimson Legend
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The SEC was damn near being left out of the first CFB playoff.
Just no
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:24 am to Mizz-SEC
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To add to this... Why would anyone in their right mind want the SEC to go to 9 games under the current format?
As a fan, I don't like the fact that I get the opportunity to go to Athens or Gainesville only once out of every twelve years.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:25 am to rmftrtr
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5 conference champs and 3 top-rated non-conference champs determined by BCS formula. Goodbye committee. If you're on the bubble of #8/#9/#10: -- You're lucky to be there if you make it, -- If you don't make it, you don't have an argument. So simple, a 'tard can understand it.
This times infinity
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:27 am to Kcprogguitar
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Who in their right mind decided to have a four team playoff with five conferences? It's a recipe for disaster that in its first year makes the BCS look brilliant.
Not really. It's the same except for the fact that two extra teams get to play. In the past, teams #3 and 4 always cried. Now it will be teams #5 and 6. Who cares? Someone will always be left out. Someone will always bitch.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:34 am to Crimson Legend
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We need all the major conference champs to get in, and we need 4 balanced conferences.
In order to have four truly "balanced conferences", you'd have to do something really stupid like send Auburn out to the Pac 12...remember the years when the Atlanta Braves played in the NL West? OK...that's an exaggeration...but you'd have to send teams out of their historical affiliations. You want "balance"? Then you can't have Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, LSU, Miss. State, Florida, and Tennessee in the same conference. The SEC has had far more teams, from top to bottom, be consistently competitive over the years. To achieve true "balance", you'd have to break them up.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:39 am to Crimson Legend
I think the 4 team playoff worked. There are three clear cut top 3 teams: Alabama, FSU, and Oregon. Any of the three remaining teams would have been totally out of the old BCS system as the real controversy would have been if only two of the top three had to be picked for one BCS game.
At the end of the day I expect Ohio State to get the fourth spot because they won their league outright and won the championship game. TCU and Baylor are co-champs and did not win their league outright.
Only having ten teams and no championship game will be the death of the XII, much like the way the old SWC was marginalized.
At the end of the day I expect Ohio State to get the fourth spot because they won their league outright and won the championship game. TCU and Baylor are co-champs and did not win their league outright.
Only having ten teams and no championship game will be the death of the XII, much like the way the old SWC was marginalized.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:55 am to Bubbles Up
It doesn't matter. Someone will always get pissed.
If you have an 8 team playoff, #9 is gonna be made.
If you have a 16 team playoff, #17....etc.
There are three dominant teams in the country right now. The rest of this is just smoke and mirrors to produce a fourth...to play victim to the other three.
I sincerely hope we get to see a Bama/Oregon game. That's the game of the year, imo.
If you have an 8 team playoff, #9 is gonna be made.
If you have a 16 team playoff, #17....etc.
There are three dominant teams in the country right now. The rest of this is just smoke and mirrors to produce a fourth...to play victim to the other three.
I sincerely hope we get to see a Bama/Oregon game. That's the game of the year, imo.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:55 am to rmftrtr
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5 conference champs and 3 top-rated non-conference champs determined by BCS formula. Goodbye committee.
Why not just get rid of "formulas" altogether?
Re-organize to eight conferences, conference champs get in. No wildcards, no byes, no formulas, no mulligans. Use SOS for seeding.
Just straight up playoffs. Why are so many so scared of this concept? It just doesn't get any more fair than that.
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