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re: We are Croom era level bad, can Leach recover?
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:06 am to dhuck20
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:06 am to dhuck20
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Not sure he can recruit to MSU at the level he needs to have sustained success in this league.
He currently has a 4 star QB and 2 4 star WRs committed. More is needed but there’s still time this cycle
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:13 am to dbuchanon
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Wasn’t long ago UF had to field an olineman transfer from an Ivy League school just to have a OL
“Haha can you imagine”. -LSU
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:15 am to Quicksilver
The one year transfer rule doesn't work for Leach because everyone tells me you have to have 2-3 years in his scheme to become successful.
Maybe we will be better. Typically I'm wrong. I should never have believed in him because I have jinxed us. I'm trying for the reverse jinx now.
Maybe we will be better. Typically I'm wrong. I should never have believed in him because I have jinxed us. I'm trying for the reverse jinx now.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:28 am to The Winner
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You expected to be competitive with Alabama in Leachs first year?
There's not competitive and then there's what MSU was on Saturday. Alabama may as well have been playing an FCS team in the first half. This Alabama defense is much weaker than usual.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:38 am to deltaland
In all fairness to Leach you are going to have to give him a couple of years to recruit players for his formations.
Texas high school football has a ton of the OL & QB's that he needs and the SEC is not after them.
He will never be a consistent top performer but he will screw up enough schools in the coming years to cause a pucker reaction everytime they face him.
Patience.
Texas high school football has a ton of the OL & QB's that he needs and the SEC is not after them.
He will never be a consistent top performer but he will screw up enough schools in the coming years to cause a pucker reaction everytime they face him.
Patience.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 10:40 am
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:41 am to deltaland
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I’m quickly losing confidence that even with the right personnel that Leachs offense can work in the SEC beyond beating a couple scrubs each year
Hogs broke State. tFlagship will break more hearts this season. Next year, the ship will be sailing like a mother fricker.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:43 am to deltaland
Give him 3 years. they will be improved. 
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:44 am to deltaland
I think it's a legitimate question to ask: which program is in worse shape now, relative to the expectations of its fan base...LSU or Miss. State?
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:47 am to BamaGradinTn
Hard to win big at State, as good as Mullen is -I think he’s upper tier- he was only able to avg 7 wins a season there
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:50 am to deltaland
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We are Croom era level bad
You're a moron if you think Moo is so bad they'd get beat by Maine and blown out by both a 2 win Vanderbilt and UAB.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:52 am to dbuchanon
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Hard to win big at State, as good as Mullen is -I think he’s upper tier- he was only able to avg 7 wins a season there
I'll keep posting it since people here seem to think Mullen was winning 10 games a year.
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Give leech the pre COVID schedule and a full spring and he'd likely be right in line with Mullen's first year.
New Mexico
@ NC State
Arkansas
Tulane
Texas A&M
@ Alabama
@ LSU
Auburn
Missouri
@ Kentucky
Alabama A&M
@ Ole Miss
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 10:55 am
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:58 am to Dr RC
Yep
You got me curious now. I’m gonna go look at his crootin class rankings. Lets see how high that bar was set :)
His avg class ranking was 26
You got me curious now. I’m gonna go look at his crootin class rankings. Lets see how high that bar was set :)
His avg class ranking was 26
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 11:06 am
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:00 am to Dr RC
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Hard to win big at State, as good as Mullen is -I think he’s upper tier- he was only able to avg 7 wins a season there
I'll keep posting it since people here seem to think Mullen was winning 10 games a year.
An average of 7 per year might be the ceiling...that would be the occasional 9-10 win year to balance out the occasional 4-5 win year.
I don't think MSU can average 10 wins a year. But can they have the occasional great year?
Let's not forget...what team was ranked #1 in the very first CFP rankings when they came out in 2014?
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:06 am to deltaland
His ceiling at MSU is middle of the pack in the SEC West, with an occasional 10-win season.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:08 am to deltaland
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Problem is next year we lose what talent we do have
I'm not sure who you're referring to, but not true.
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I’m quickly losing confidence that even with the right personnel that Leachs offense can work in the SEC beyond beating a couple scrubs each year
Everything remains to be seen. Leach has an ego, credibility to protect. We haven't started a servicable qb since Arkansas and that's a huge no no.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 11:10 am
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:08 am to The Spleen
He literally had one
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:10 am to BamaGradinTn
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Let's not forget...what team was ranked #1 in the very first CFP rankings when they came out in 2014?
and they were ranked that high b/c they beat 3 overrated teams in A&M, LSU, and Auburn who were each in the top 10 at the time but all finished with 5 losses. Miss State finished that year losing 3 of 4. The best team they beat that year was... 8-5 Auburn?
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:13 am to BamaGradinTn
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Let's not forget...what team was ranked #1 in the very first CFP rankings when they came out in 2014?
Most of that was Mullen running off the DC before the end of the season.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:14 am to deltaland
Hire Woody McCorvey, he'll turn it around
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:17 am to deltaland
If you weren’t going to give him time to recruit to his system, why did you even hire him?
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