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re: Was Fat Phil underrated?
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:15 pm to GhostBuster6
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:15 pm to GhostBuster6
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Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:15 pm to RunningBlake
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Tenner has not yet hit rock bottom either, I'm afraid.
You'd better be afraid, because Tennessee hit rock bottom last season. Shite is about to get real for the rest of the SEC.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:15 pm to GhostBuster6
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and was the premier program in the sec along with florida for MANY years.
Ummm I think UF won like 6 SEC titles under spurrier. UT won like 2 during that time. UT was very very good in the 90s and were one of the best teams during the decade, but they weren't on florida's level.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:17 pm to BhamDore
His 2007 coaching job, if it wasn't his best ever, was top 2.
This post was edited on 7/29/12 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:18 pm to GhostBuster6
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mega-powerhouse
2 SEC championships and 1 national championship is hardly a mega-powerhouse.
He's a good coach, that obviously took advantage of Bama's issues during that time period.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:18 pm to WG_Dawg
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but they weren't on florida's level.
They were slightly above us because of the 4 SEC Titles in a row...We won 3 SEC Titles in the 90s, FWIW.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:24 pm to deaux68
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2 SEC championships and 1 national championship is hardly a mega-powerhouse.
Also being consistently ranked in the top 10, and going 45-5 from 1995-98 probably qualifies as a "mega-powerhouse".
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that obviously took advantage of Bama's issues during that time period.
Said it once, I'll say it again: If you all you Gumps love to use that bullshite excuse as a reason for UT owning you from 1995-2006, I'll use Fulmer firing/Kiffin leaving/Dooley being Dooley as our excuse a few years down the road.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:28 pm to Volsboozewomen
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Tenner has not yet hit rock bottom either, I'm afraid.
You'd better be afraid, because Tennessee hit rock bottom last season. Shite is about to get real for the rest of the SEC.
Put down the bottle and step away!
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:33 pm to therick711
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His 2007 coaching job, if it wasn't his best ever, was top 2.
He looked like he was going to get fired after the Alabama arse kicking, then he squeaked out wins against a mediocre South Carolina team, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky to barely get to Atlanta.
This post was edited on 7/29/12 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:34 pm to reel_gator8
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Moral to the story: grass isnt always greener on the other side of the 50 yd line.
Can't quite put my finger on it, but there is a geauxmer joke in here somewhere...
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:35 pm to ohiovol
Anyone who thinks Fulmer shouldn't have been fired is either uninformed or stupid. He's been begging for head coaching jobs and getting laughed at every damn time. He keeps lowering his standards for jobs and he keeps getting passed over.
In fact, Fulmer should have been fired after the train wreck that was 2005. Tennessee could have easily rebounded by now. But instead, we waited as long as possible. To be honest, Tennessee deserves this for waiting so long.
In fact, Fulmer should have been fired after the train wreck that was 2005. Tennessee could have easily rebounded by now. But instead, we waited as long as possible. To be honest, Tennessee deserves this for waiting so long.
This post was edited on 7/29/12 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:57 pm to ohiovol
Winning the East with that team with Florida having their best player ever and Georgia having their best offensive players since 2000 was remarkable. That team had little outside of a defense and Berry's individual brilliance. Laugh if you want, but the results with that roster are astonishing. It was back before the East became a punch line.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:59 pm to ohiovol
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Tennessee deserves this
frick you.
Mike Hamilton deserves AIDS, us fans who knew Fulmer's days were numbered a long time before '08 don't need this shite.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 8:02 pm to therick711
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Winning the East with that team with Florida having their best player ever and Georgia having their best offensive players since 2000 was remarkable. That team had little outside of a defense and Berry's individual brilliance. Laugh if you want, but the results with that roster are astonishing. It was back before the East became a punch line.
Tennessee had a great game against Georgia and a good defensive performance against Arkansas. They looked pretty awful against Cal, Florida, Alabama, South Carolina, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky, and I can't really too much of the other games, but they were all against teams that ranged from mediocre to trash.
This post was edited on 7/29/12 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 7/29/12 at 8:03 pm to Jerry the Clown
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frick you.
Mike Hamilton deserves AIDS, us fans who knew Fulmer's days were numbered a long time before '08 don't need this shite.
Point taken, because a lot of fans did realize it, but it's not Hamilton's fault that Fulmer hung around so long.
This post was edited on 7/29/12 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 7/29/12 at 9:04 pm to GhostBuster6
I think he was underrated.
He was 152–52 from '92-'08 with:
1 Nat'l Championship ('98)
2 SEC Championships ('97, '98)
6 SEC East Titles ('97, '98, '01, '03 (3-way tie), '04, '07 (2-way tie).
If I remember right, he assumed the HC job at some point in '92 (Johnny Majors sickness?) and coached for 16 more seasons. That's a long tenure in the SEC. He's probably top-10 for seasons coached in the SEC.
The one thing that really stands out against him is his record vs Spurrier (only 3 wins vs 7 losses vs UF and 2-2 USCe).
All in all a great career.
He was 152–52 from '92-'08 with:
1 Nat'l Championship ('98)
2 SEC Championships ('97, '98)
6 SEC East Titles ('97, '98, '01, '03 (3-way tie), '04, '07 (2-way tie).
If I remember right, he assumed the HC job at some point in '92 (Johnny Majors sickness?) and coached for 16 more seasons. That's a long tenure in the SEC. He's probably top-10 for seasons coached in the SEC.
The one thing that really stands out against him is his record vs Spurrier (only 3 wins vs 7 losses vs UF and 2-2 USCe).
All in all a great career.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 10:04 pm to GhostBuster6
He was a good SEC caliber coach.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 10:26 pm to siliconvalleytiger
I don't see how in 20 years Fulmer is not an SEC legend coach w/ all he did.
Posted on 7/31/12 at 12:15 am to RunningBlake
Fulmer took us to a level Majors couldn't get us to. Rodney Garner was a great asset also. In one class he brought us Jamal Lewis, Deon Grant and Cosey Coleman all out of the State of Georgia. From 1995-1998 Fulmer's record is one of the greatest in SEC history: 11-1, 10-2, 11-2, 13-0. Two Sec Titles and One National Championship. 45-5 over 4 seasons isn't too shabby. Alabama was Johnny Major's albatross. Florida and Spurrier were Fulmer's. The 2001 SECCG exposed Fulmer though..Nick Saban made halftime adjustments and Fulmer and "Third and Long" Chavis never caught on and LSU spoiled UT's try at a Second National Championship in 4 years. TO ME this started the downward spiral of UT football. We had some "GOOD TEAMS" after that never teams that were among the "ELITE".
Posted on 7/31/12 at 12:54 am to GhostBuster6
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UT was a mega-powerhouse during his tenure
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Pump the brakes.
They were very good, to be sure.
Unfortunately for Fulmer, he inhabited the same division as Spurrier. Spurrier liked to quip that "You can't spell Citrus Bowl without UT."
But, yeah, in hindsight, I think they should have let Fulmer stay. Too late now. That ship done sailed.
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