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re: Wall Street Journal Ranks Texas A&M As #1 Public University In Texas

Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:14 pm to
A&M gets easier to get into every year. It will be on par with Tech soon. It’s by design. Their plan is to expand the school and create an even bigger network in the state. We will see if that network gets watered down and turns into a negative in hiring departments. I tend to think it’s a good strategy.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62586 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:14 pm to
Actually the chances of being accepted have only gone up from 51.2 to 51.6% in the last 5 years

Posted by cjohn
Georgia
Member since Aug 2014
1321 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:06 pm to

My God, will you two just get a room and angry scissor each other to death?
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19639 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:16 pm to
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My God, will you two just get a room and angry scissor each other to death?

New report just issued by the Wall Street Journal claims Texas has the most angry scissors..

Link: WSJ Exclusive Report
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62586 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:17 pm to
You seem lost
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33275 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:13 am to
No. I’ve hired both and both alums are solid, but to assert aTm > UT academically is bullshite.

But, you’re an Aggie and hate ‘sips, so your bias is noted.
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
2162 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:35 am to
The aggies desperately begging for attention by consistently bumping this thread:

Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15514 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:48 am to
you just did the same, clown boy.
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
2162 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:50 am to
Posting 20 minutes after the last guy did?

That reply of yours was as desperate as this thread is
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15514 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:10 am to
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desperate


perfectly describes your attempts at posting on this board.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
11046 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:34 am to
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No. I’ve hired both and both alums are solid, but to assert aTm > UT academically is bull shite.


The WSJ asserted it. But like I said previously, they are measuring jobs and salaries earned upon graduation.

If I’m a prospective student that’s what I would care about.
Posted by TheRealTigerHorn
Member since Jun 2023
266 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:55 am to
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The WSJ asserted it. But like I said previously, they are measuring jobs and salaries earned upon graduation.

If I’m a prospective student that’s what I would care about.


The flaw in the methodology is that it is bulk data. Proportionately, ATM has a higher fraction of undergrad STEM majors and other career-focused degrees, where UT has a ton of public policy future social workers in addition to its STEM undergrads. That will skew bulk data in favor of ATM. A more accurate comparison would be salaries of grads five years into their careers on a discipline by discipline (ie, engineering to engineering, finance to finance, etc) basis, but that's more collection difficulty than these outfits can take on.

As stated earlier in this thread, wife attended both schools, daughter at ATM now, I am a 2x Texas Ex. I think ATM is the slightly better undergrad program, UT is the better place to go to grad school.
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2186 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:04 am to
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where UT has a ton of public policy future social workers in addition to its STEM undergrads.


This begs the larger question on the true value of a university education. Liberal Arts degrees have value, but not 80K a year value. I don't begrudge anyone that goes to Austin to study something interesting. They will come out the other side with a relatively affordable, high quality education and hopefully can make it work in this modern economy.

Kids that go to Tufts or Haverford or Reed or Bard or whatever other ridiculously overpriced tiny liberal arts college get what is coming to them, unless they come from wealth and then what does it matter.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 9:13 am
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
11046 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:07 am to
Could get a social work degree from Texas State.
Posted by bigbopper
Houston
Member since Jul 2015
1218 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:20 am to
Your diploma mill university lets in 71% of applicants. And that doesn't even account for the mouthbreathing dullards who get into A&M through Backdoor Blinn Junior College.
Texas lets in 31% of applicants.

It's not close.

Your alums are bizarre, awkward dorks. There is a reason aggy quickly became the most laughed at fan base in this conference.

Professionally, you guys are good for designing retention ponds and spaying cats. That's about it.
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2186 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:24 am to
Yeah, I suppose it represents what you want out of the college experience. My God-Daughter is a very, very bright girl and finished near the top of her class in one of the bigger publics in North Texas. Because her Dad had a work assignment out of state for several of her high school years, however, her transcript did not qualify for the top 7%/Top 10%.

She is from a large Longhorn family, decided to go the CAP route, and enrolled at UT-D with the idea of transferring to Austin. She ended up loving UT-D and got an amazing internship that translated to a full time job offer by the summer of her junior year. She finished up at night and is doing really well already in here late 20s.

Some people want the four years of booze and football games at a brand name school but there are plenty of alternative paths that can be very rewarding.
Posted by bigbopper
Houston
Member since Jul 2015
1218 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:29 am to
UT-D is a great school.
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5844 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:33 am to
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Some people want the four years of booze and football games


Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2186 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:35 am to
Agreed, but is also a regional school and a bit of a commuter school.

I know I get rocks thrown my way, but both the A&M and UT systems should funnel more money to satellite campuses. I don't praise much in California, but they way that state has been able to build world class schools both at the Flagship level but also at satellite campuses is impressive.

Berkely and UCLA are tied as the best public colleges and UC- Davis and UC-San Diego are tied for 6th. I know rankings aren't everything but that is still impressive.
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5844 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:38 am to
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UT-D is a great school.


UTD should be the third flagship University system in Texas.

Carve it out of the UT system, put it under its own BOD, give it control over some smaller feeder schools, cut thr system into an equal share of the PUF.

The UT and A&M systems can't handle the volume of highly qualified students in Texas anymore. And Tech, UH, UNT, etc. Haven't been able to rise to the challenge. Let UTD stand on it own and be the third flagship the state needs.
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