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re: USA Today: LSU knew in 2018 that officials kept allegations against athletes in-house

Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:09 am to
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:09 am to
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Then the NCAA released its formal NOA against Baylor, accusing them of a Lack of Institutional Control, and according to an article published yesterday, are scheduled for a 2 day appearance in front of the infractions committee.

A hearing that was initially set in 2018....

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Well, they were placed on SACS accreditation probation, for one.

Is this like double secret probation?

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The Big12 also withheld 25% of their future revenue payments.

No they didn’t. “Pending an investigation” meaning they haven’t

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They were investigated by the entire Texas DPS.

Go on...


Bottom line, outside Briles getting fired, individual players prosecuted, and some bad PR, nothing has happened to the Baylor athletic department, and most think at this point nothing ever will. A whole bunch of “investigations” and posturing but no actual consequences
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 10:11 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:13 am to
LOL

Okay. You're right. Nothing to see here.

Enjoy.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:13 am to
I know I’m right.
Posted by Wildcat1996
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:14 am to
Indeed. And that fact demonstrates the ineffective paper tiger that is the NCAA.

It's truly the apex of hypocrisy that University Administrators give lip service to ideals of equity, inclusion and "safe spaces" while turning a blind eye to sexual assault so long as you can "tote the rock".
Posted by JKChesterton
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:14 am to
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Well, they were placed on SACS accreditation probation, for one.

The Big12 also withheld 25% of their future revenue payments.

They were investigated by the entire Texas DPS.

Then the NCAA released its formal NOA against Baylor, accusing them of a Lack of Institutional Control, and according to an article published yesterday, are scheduled for a 2 day appearance in front of the infractions committee.



This is where this could impact LSU. SACS probation could impact Federal Funding for Research $$$. That impacts the entire University and impacts the core mission of a school like Baylor, and potentially LSU, which is Research and Teaching.

If the SEC does something similar if LSU gets hit with Title IX infractions and SACS probation, a 25% loss of SEC money is going to hurt like hell. LSU relies on Selling Tiger Stadium out to generate a significant portion of its Revenues and of course the SEC Revenue from TV contracts.

COVID-19 put a kick in the azzz on LSU's ticket sales already and a loss of SEC money means LSU is potentially going to be constrained the next few years with facility upgrades, etc.

So none of this relates to having ineligible players playing in games (i.e. grade fraud to keep players academically eligible) and will not impact games won. So not an NCAA issue like that, but in reality lets be honest, it is far more serious from a ethical perspective and could impact LSU financially.

Again could, I will wait for the independent audit to issue their report
Posted by FightingTigers138
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:19 am to
Ol Verge about to fall hard.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:19 am to
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I know I’m right.


I would like you to expand on this. Baylor is literally sitting in front of the NCAA Infractions Committee today for being cited with a Lack of Institutional Control.

You smugly asked what sanctions had been levied, and had no idea that was happening. Sit down.
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 10:20 am
Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:20 am to
It's time for Woodward to go scorched earth in the athletic department. This shite is beyond unacceptable. Verge has been a well respected person in the building and across the conference but if he knew he needs to gtfo today. Segar has been a pain in the arse for LSU for a while. She supposedly works hand in hand with the compliance department. Smoke weed? You push for those players to miss the entire season. Get rapey? Nah, you good. Have a good game Saturday.

Blow up the entire department.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:21 am to
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So not an NCAA issue like that, but in reality lets be honest, it is far more serious from a ethical perspective and could impact LSU financially.


I posted this in another thread, but I think the big concern for LSU is that Baylor was charged with a Lack of Institutional Control by the NCAA just for its Title IX issues. LSU is already dealing with the NCAA for unrelated issues in both Football and Basketball in addition to the Title IX problems. That's going to leave a mark.
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 10:24 am
Posted by TigerGM
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:25 am to
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Death penalty incoming.



Woodward and emmeretts kids are married. Let that sink in.
Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:26 am to
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I posted this in another thread, but I think the big concern for LSU is that Baylor was charged with a Lack of Institutional Control by the NCAA just for it's Title IX issues. LSU is already dealing with the NCAA for unrelated issues in both Football and Basketball in addition to the Title IX problems. That's going to leave a mark.


I think Baylor got hit because their head coach and his son got caught promoting the culture. The last lawsuit alleged 52 counts of rape over 4 years being covered up at multiple levels in the athletic department.

If LSU had anything like that going on then hit them with the LOIC. I don't think that's the case though.
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 10:28 am
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:27 am to
You keep mentioning Baylor, a school yet to be punished going on 4 years now. Keep us updated in the next few years if the NCAA ever decides to actually conduct a hearing. Then, maybe you can try to apply something to this case.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:28 am to
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I would like you to expand on this.

I did. See above
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:28 am to
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Death penalty incoming.


Reminds me a lot of the Baylor situation. Speaking of Baylor, the NCAA opened an investigation regarding the Baylor sexual assault scandal back in 2017 and the case is still ongoing. Based on that precedent, LSU might not get any sanctions until 2025. The SEC should at least withhold 25% (or more) of LSU's television revenue distribution until an outside review determines that the school is in compliance with conference regulations and Title IX guidelines like the Big 12 did with Baylor.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:28 am to
This same Tuscaloosa once tried to argue that Alabama doesn’t cheat in recruiting because they don’t have to cheat. The north remembers.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:29 am to
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This same Tuscaloosa once tried to argue that Alabama doesn’t cheat in recruiting because they don’t have to cheat. The north remembers.


We don't have to. We choose to, and there's not a single damn thing you can do about it.
Posted by lsu711
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:31 am to
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Baylor was charged with a Lack of Institutional Control by the NCAA just for its Title IX issues.

Title IX issues aren’t all created equal.

Baylor lying about rape statistics is a little different than LSU athletics middle managers taking accusations directly to the police and not the Title IX coordinator.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:32 am to
It’s not a choice it’s what dirty communist loving Dems like saban do. They cheat it’s in their DNA. Where are Dodge Challenger parts sourced? Xinjiang of course.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:34 am to
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You keep mentioning Baylor


Yes.

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a school yet to be punished going on 4 years now


Inaccurate. Also conveniently dismissive of the fact that the entire administration was sent packing by the institution.

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Keep us updated in the next few years if the NCAA ever decides to actually conduct a hearing.


They're in the middle of a 2 day appearance in front of the Committee on Infractions right now. I'll keep you posted.

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Then, maybe you can try to apply something to this case.


This could be much, much worse than that case - as LSU isn't only dealing with Title IX issues. Baylor was squeaky clean otherwise. LSU is in the middle of serving sanctions for football and will soon be serving sanctions in basketball.

You can spin all you want. Trying to pretend this is a non-issue is a bad look on multiple fronts.

Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:34 am to
Saban sold out to China to cover his gambling debts.
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