re: Updyke evidence or proof he poisoned the trees

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Updyke evidence or proof he poisoned the trees
yes, the confessed, but as of now their confession would be equal to Updyke saying he poisoned the tree, but no poison has yet to be found in the trees.

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Finding poison doesn't prove he did it. The only thing connecting him is a Finebaum call. He can easily say he knew about it and confessed for attention but it wasn't him. We all know he did it. We all know OJ did it. We all know Auburn did it. Concrete evidence is different though.

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true, there is no physical evidence that has been released that he did it, but i would bet that a lawyer has a copy of the webcam of toomer's corner from around that time and could maybe find out. Don't know that for sure though, just a possibility. However, there is enough circumstantial evidence to rule him guilty. There still isn't even circumstantial evidence towards Auburn. All there is is allegations. Thats it. You can believe whatever you want about how guilty they are, but as of now, they are just unsubstantiated claims. Updyke's claims have been supported by facts.

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We're on the same page. I'm just saying his confession isn't fact because he claims it was a prank:

"Updyke apologized to his children and the University of Alabama, denying guilt but admitting he called into the radio show as "Al from Dadeville" in January to brag about the poisonings, calling it a "prank."

"It's one of the biggest mistakes I've made," he said. "My wives said I am a crowd-stirrer. I was just trying to upset the Auburn nation."

The guy did it. I have no doubt. I knew football players at another school that got free grades and money so I also believe the players. Both cases there is no true proof that is public. But I'm with you on everything you say. I'm just say.

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Finding poison doesn't prove he did it. The only thing connecting him is a Finebaum call. He can easily say he knew about it and confessed for attention but it wasn't him. We all know he did it. We all know OJ did it. We all know Auburn did it. Concrete evidence is different though.

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This is NOT true, Updyke also called a professor at Auburn about the trees and Auburn has the voice mail tapes (Yes, I see the irony)... Calling Fbaum might have been to get at the Aubs, but how does he explain calling the professor.. Plus yesterday's tapes did not help him either... This will NOT go to trial, because his attorney knows that his sentence if found guilty will be MUCH HIGHER and include a lot of jail time.

Yeah, they pretty much aren't ducking that he did it, just trying to get the best deal possible.

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he is admitting to a crime he comitted

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This is like 30 pages late, but he didnt confess to the tree poisoning. When he said "it was the biggest mistake of my life" or something to that sort, he was referring to the radio show call. If you listen to him, he never admits to the poisoning. He is always talking about regretting making the call.

I think he did it. Not defending him at all. But that is actually what he is saying in all these interviews. And the way he talks, its like he just assumes that people know that the phone call is what he is talking about, like there is nothing else to be sorry about. It's odd, but considering who its coming from, its expected.

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This is like 30 pages late, but he didnt confess to the tree poisoning. When he said "it was the biggest mistake of my life" or something to that sort, he was referring to the radio show call. If you listen to him, he never admits to the poisoning. He is always talking about regretting making the call.

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Exactly. Everyone is assuming he is confessing to what they believe he did, without actually listening to what he is saying.

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I think he did it. Not defending him at all.

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Me either...but I pay attention to what is actually being said. You can usually hear the strategy if you listen closely enough to what people and politicians say. There is always an "out" in the wording...

Yeah, he did it sure as hell, thats just not what he has said publicly so far.

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WDE

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I think groveling for the best deal they can get is their only hope.

In the statement below, he said he has done some good thing, but that wasn't one of them. What is the "that" he is referring to? Calling the fbaum show?


“If they put me in (jail), it’s going to be rough. I don’t want to go to my grave being Harvey The Tree Poisoner. I’ve done a lot of good things. That wasn’t one of them. I would’ve been remembered as a great father, great grandfather.”

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Yes. Just before the section you quoted he said something to the effect of "making that CALL was the worst decision of my life"...

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Using BAMMER Logic, since he did not deny killing the trees, he is guilty... He did not give a clear cut confession, but clearly taking the entire call, he is guilty.

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Yes. Just before the section you quoted he said something to the effect of "making that CALL was the worst decision of my life. My ex-wives will tell you that I'm a first class crap-stirrer, and I was trying to get after the Auburn people..."

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I can confirm this statement because he STARTED to say "shite stirrer" but he stopped himself and said "crap stirrer".