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Updated SEC unit rankings through Week9

Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:15 am
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:15 am
LINK: TOTAL OFFENSE





LINK: TOTAL DEFENSE





LINK: ALL SEC STAT CATEGORIES

This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 11:17 am
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:18 am to
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:21 am to
Scoring offense and scoring defense is more important than yds.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:26 am to
quote:

Scoring offense and scoring defense is more important than yds.


Maybe.. tomato-tamato... Feel free to post here or start a thread on scoring offenses/defenses (as always, I’ve provided links in OP for you to easily access and analyze the statistics you or anyone might consider more important).

And to your point…FWIW, the unit rankings in those 2 different categories (scoring offense vs total offense and scoring defense vs total defense) usually line up exactly the same or very close to one another…They typically look nearly identical.
This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 11:33 am
Posted by Drydock
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:27 am to
Playing Arkansas sure helps.
Posted by NickPapageorgio
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:27 am to
Also just looking at conference games only would be preferable.

Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:31 am to
Yep. Makes a big difference.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:34 am to
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Total Defense



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Auburn



Posted by Armymann50
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:37 am to
saturday
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:38 am to
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Maybe.. tomato-tamato




Maybe?

Can you tell me in what universe how many yards you gained is more important than how many points you scored on your opponent?
Posted by NickPapageorgio
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:39 am to
It is very important to computer models.

Lol
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:40 am to
The rankings in both line up very closely is all I’m saying. Good scoring offenses have good total offenses, and vice versa. Almost always. Good scoring defenses have good total defenses, and vice versa. Almost always. Because the categories, by their nature, measure the same thing: offense and defense.

You’re getting caught in the weeds if that’s what you’re thinking about when looking at and analyzing statistics.

I never said scoring points or not giving up points doesn’t matter…. For some strange reason, that’s what you’re implying and it’s a waste of statistical discussion IMO.
This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 11:48 am
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:41 am to
Now do scoring offense and scoring defense since points win games, not yards.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:42 am to
Have at it. No one is stopping you. Data and links are right there for you and easily accessible.
This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 11:47 am
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:43 am to
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Now do scoring offense and scoring defense since points win games, not yards.


Fell free to do that yourself
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:48 am to
LSU fans: here's something entirely and completely irrelevant to winning games that we're good at

Others: ok what about literally the only thing that matters regarding winning games?

LSU fans: what's it to ya? Who cares, basically the same thing. Just figure it out yourself geez
Posted by Finch
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:50 am to
UGA Fans : your stats don’t matter but I’m too lazy to post the stats I keep referencing
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:50 am to
quote:

here's something entirely and completely irrelevant to winning games that we're good at

ok what about literally the only thing that matters regarding winning games?


Wait, so your argument is that moving the ball on offense and stopping the other team from moving the ball on defense is “completely irrelevant” (your words) and doesn’t matter?

That’s your position? Odd argument, but to each his own.

FWIW, I have never once stated scoring offense and scoring defense don’t matter. So I’m not even sure why you’re even referencing that…Couldn’t be further from the truth or my opinion on scoring offenses or defenses. Yall for some reason are interpreting/implying that for who knows what reason(s).
This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:56 am to
I swear every time I open one of these stat modeling threads, the OP lasts about 3 posts before they get defensive or tell everyone why their opinions don't matter, without actually giving detail.

Not picking on you specifically, but I've seen the exact same pattern by about 4 different posters here recently.

All people are asking for are a few more rows on the spreadsheet & a data set w/non-conference games excluded.
This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 11:58 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
91743 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:58 am to
quote:

your argument is that moving the ball on offense and stopping the other team from moving the ball on defense is “completely irrelevant” and doesn’t matter?


Yes. What matters is how many points you scored compared to how many points they scored. Kind of a big deal when it comes to who wins the game. Last I checked there has never in history been a game where they consulted the box score for yardage totals to award the winner
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