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re: Unbiased posters only: Where do you see Arkansas in 4 years?
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:41 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:41 am to hawgfaninc
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most current SEC coaches came from lesser conferences than the one bert came from
True. But most built a program instead of inheriting a program from Barry Alvarez.
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:44 am to piggilicious
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gus' failures or successes have no bearing on whether i want him as a coach for my school. i get you not being able to comprehend such a thing tho.
An Arky talking about comprehension?
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:46 am to CaptainBrannigan
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True. But most built a program instead of inheriting a program from Barry Alvarez.
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@SportsTalkwBo: Bielema: "In year five at Wisconsin, we won our first championship & then won three straight. I hope it happens faster than that here."
so after 5 years he was still using Alvarez recruits?
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:47 am to Korin
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An Arky talking about comprehension?
yes.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:49 am to hawgfaninc
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lol @ anyone pointing out bert coming from the B1G as a fault most current SEC coaches came from lesser conferences than the one bert came from
How many first year SEC coaches have gone winless in conference play?
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:49 am to hawgfaninc
I personally watched Alverez's last team destroy Auburn to end the 2005 season. we were one of the hottest teams in the country... beat eventual SEC champs on the road... only SEC loss was in OT in baton rouge.
in reality, the fact it took him five years from his starting point at Wisconsin should be a red flag.
in reality, the fact it took him five years from his starting point at Wisconsin should be a red flag.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 11:52 am
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:51 am to MMB5DAP
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How many first year SEC coaches have gone winless in conference play?
not sure
how did other coaches do with talent left by bobby petrino?
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:53 am to lowspark12
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in reality, the fact it took him five years from his starting point at Wisconsin should be a red flag.
He went 38-15 in those four years. I'll take that red flag every day of the week.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:53 am to hawgfaninc
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not sure how did other coaches do with talent left by bobby petrino?
John L. Smith beat Auburn and Kentucky
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:54 am to goldennugget
in 4 years they will be telling how great their new HC will be.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 11:55 am
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:55 am to piggilicious
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yes.
From the very first post:
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No Arkansas fans allowed.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:56 am to hawgfaninc
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how did other coaches do with talent left by bobby petrino?
Serious question: How is Bielema (and staff) doing with recruiting efforts?
Not trying to turn this into a thread for the Recruiting Board, it just seems relevant to this topic.
On the whole (and on paper, obviously), does Arkansas seem to be meeting it's talent needs?
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:58 am to EKG
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On the whole (and on paper, obviously), does Arkansas seem to be meeting it's talent needs?
For what he wants to do offensively? Definitely.
Defensively? Probably not.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:00 pm to TheCheshireHog
i was just looking up his record... the year immediately following Alverez (2006) was very good (12-1), then digressed for a couple years before picking back up in 09 and 10 (2010 being the first B10 title).
His overall conference mark was a little suprising to me... over his 7 years at Wisconsin, he lost 19 Big10 games -- 2.7 losses per year. That's still very good, but I was expecting something better, given his success and the three championships.
His overall conference mark was a little suprising to me... over his 7 years at Wisconsin, he lost 19 Big10 games -- 2.7 losses per year. That's still very good, but I was expecting something better, given his success and the three championships.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:01 pm to lowspark12
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His overall conference mark was a little suprising to me... over his 7 years at Wisconsin, he lost 19 Big10 games -- 2.7 losses per year.
If he did that at Arkansas for seven straight years then he would probably land a lifetime contract.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:03 pm to TheCheshireHog
Right, but 2.7 Big10 losses equals what in the SEC West?.... 5-3 or 4-4 seasons?
2.7 was good, but I was thinking it would've been lower given the three championships... granted, the last season skews the numbers a bit.
2.7 was good, but I was thinking it would've been lower given the three championships... granted, the last season skews the numbers a bit.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:03 pm to Korin
well in my first reply i copied/pasted one that said 'frick the rules'.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:05 pm to lowspark12
Right but if you win your four OOC games then you're 8-4 or 9-3 heading in to the bowl game every year. No coach has done that consistently at Arkansas in almost 30 years.
If you have the occasional 10+ win season when you have an upperclassmen laden team then I think you are looking at a realistic goal for what Arkansas can and should be able to do consistently in the SEC.
If you have the occasional 10+ win season when you have an upperclassmen laden team then I think you are looking at a realistic goal for what Arkansas can and should be able to do consistently in the SEC.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:05 pm to goldennugget
I honestly don't think Bert is the guy. He has the philosophy, power football works well in the SEC, but the guy can't recruit for shite. Relying on diamonds in the rough can work if you have innovative offense, but that's the opposite of what he has. Arkansas will never be a consistent power until they start winning recruiting battles against the SEC big boys, and stop filling the roster with guys who weren't offered by any other SEC school.
So to answer the OP, in four years I see Arkansas breaking in a new coach. If they're smart it will be a guy who can make Arky a trendy destination, or is an ace national recruiter.
So to answer the OP, in four years I see Arkansas breaking in a new coach. If they're smart it will be a guy who can make Arky a trendy destination, or is an ace national recruiter.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:08 pm to goldennugget
I believe Bret could have a very solid OL and a very nice running game, but I see arky fans get impatient and him being fired by the start of the 2016 year
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