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re: UGA just bootyclapped UCF in basketball 114-76
Posted on 10/30/24 at 12:39 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 10/30/24 at 12:39 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:I thought he only had say in the Tennessee forum?
it's Smokeyone
he deleted two of my threads this morning
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Posted on 10/30/24 at 12:50 pm to Partha
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I thought he only had say in the Tennessee forum?
a team board mod from another fanbase already blew the cover on that
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:00 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:Interesting.
a team board mod from another fanbase already blew the cover on that
I remember calling him out for letting all those shitty Vol alters run amuck on the rant and he used the excuse that he only has mod authority over the Vol board
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:11 pm to diddlydawg7
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Explain why.
Because he was that mid at Florida with players he recruited. And your trying to tell me it will be different at UGA?
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:14 pm to diddlydawg7
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I don't care if it was an exhibition, that's a serious asskicking
Not quite as bad as Duke beating ASU 103-47
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:20 pm to diddlydawg7
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This is what I’m talking about. It makes zero sense. Recruiting is part of coaching. Arguably the biggest part.
If things were reversed you’d say he’s a pretty good X and Os guy but held the program back because he couldn’t bring in top talent.
At the end of the day it’s about results.
I think reaching an Elite 8 and winning a tournament game in 4 out of 6 years with no losing seasons is pretty solid.
I would love for him to do that at UGA, and I don’t care if he does it by dragging 5-stars through the season or squeezing everything he can out of 3-stars
Your entire argument is that it’s better to go 20-10 with no talent than lots of talent. Who cares?
How does it make 0 sense? Are you saying recruiting doesn't set expectations? Recruiting has got be the biggest expectation setter in college sports.
You can't load your roster with 4-5 star players then expect any fanbase to be satisfied with an average to below average team.
Sure some fanbases, depending on the sport and their history of success, will be more patient than others (I'm honestly surprised we gave him 7 years). But eventually all fanbases will grow tired of consistently underachieving expectations. Even UGA basketball fans.
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:22 pm to diddlydawg7
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bootyclapped
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:23 pm to mistaken4193
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Because he was that mid at Florida with players he recruited.
I've addressed this like 8 times in this thread.
Recruiting is part of coaching. Acting like he shouldn't get credit for bringing in those guys is dumb as shite.
You say his teams were "mid". Have you ever considered the reason his teams were "mid" and not "shite" was because he's a really good recruiter?
I feel like this is a really basic concept.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:29 pm to SM1010
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SM1010
at this point you are just intentionally ignoring what the actual UGA fans in here are telling you. Idk what your ultimate aim is but you're off the mark...still.
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You can't load your roster with 4-5 star players then expect any fanbase to be satisfied with an average to below average team
average to below average for UF basketball is absolutely outstanding for UGA basketball. Why you refuse to acknowledge this, idk.
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some fanbases, depending on the sport and their history of success, will be more patient than others (I'm honestly surprised we gave him 7 years). But eventually all fanbases will grow tired of consistently underachieving expectations. Even UGA basketball fans.
what makes you think you know what our expectations are?
Posted on 10/30/24 at 1:36 pm to SM1010
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How does it make 0 sense? Are you saying recruiting doesn't set expectations? Recruiting has got be the biggest expectation setter in college sports.
You said him "being a good recruiter sets him up to fail"
What you're ignoring is that being a good recruiter is succeeding in and of itself.
Think about what UGA has done in the last couple years.
We went 6-26 in our last year under Crean. We had neither talent nor coaching.
We are about to bring in our 3rd straight Top 10 class under Mike White. He has massively upgraded the talent in the program. As a result, our record has improved since he took over.
Now you could say that we should be doing more with that talent, and I'd agree, as I've said that this year we have no excuse not to make the tournament. However, we still find ourselves far more successful than we have in many years, simply due to the sheer talent he has imported to Athens.
Maybe we could've hired someone else who is a better strategist than him, but I'm not sure how many could've recruited better than him.
That's the whole fricking point. It's a mix of both. There is no scenario in which him being a good recruiter makes him look worse.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:05 pm to WG_Dawg
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average to below average for UF basketball is absolutely outstanding for UGA basketball. Why you refuse to acknowledge this, idk.
I've acknowledged this over and over again. If you want to disagree with me fine but don't act like I haven't acknowledged it.
Yet again.. Sure UGA's expectations are lower than UF's. Your patience may be higher (although we gave him 7 years that's a hell of a long time in major college sports).
But you still have factor in creeping expectations and human nature. UGA is not immune to that. I call BS if any power conference fan base is going to be completely content with average to below average teams for 10 years while their coach is pulling top 10 recruiting classes every single year. Mike White's SEC winning % is probably somewhere around 50% if not lower.
Disagree with me all you want. We'll see where you are in 7-10 years if he even lasts that long.
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 10/30/24 at 2:41 pm to diddlydawg7
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I’m gonna bookmark this because I’ve had this conversation dozens of times. You can’t make a legitimate argument for either of those guys having a better career than Mike White.
Thats bait...
Posted on 10/30/24 at 3:11 pm to diddlydawg7
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Kevaughn Allen committed a month after Donovan left. He decommitted then White got him to come back. I'm sure you will say he shouldn't get any credit for that though
This is inaccurate.
LINK
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Allen committed to the Gators in April of 2014 and signed his National Letter of Intent in April 2015.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 3:23 pm to diddlydawg7
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I’m gonna bookmark this because I’ve had this conversation dozens of times. You can’t make a legitimate argument for either of those guys having a better career than Mike White.
You can bookmark whatever the frick you want.
Sloan took us out of the basement and won our first conference title. Kruger took us to our first Final 4. Mike White was given the keys to a Ferrari and promptly never learned how to shift out of first gear. He is a poor man's Mark Richt.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 3:32 pm to bigDgator
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This is inaccurate.
It’s perfectly accurate.
4/30/14: Allen commits to UF
4/28/15: Billy Donovan leaves UF
5/5/15: Allen officially decommits, asks out of LOI
5/18/15: Allen recommits after meeting with Mike White
Posted on 10/30/24 at 3:46 pm to diddlydawg7
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It’s perfectly accurate.
4/30/14: Allen commits to UF
4/28/15: Billy Donovan leaves UF
5/5/15: Allen officially decommits, asks out of LOI
5/18/15: Allen recommits after meeting with Mike White
This is accurate. This is not what you wrote, unless you edited it again.
BTW, it is kind of creepy how much you research UF.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 3:48 pm to diddlydawg7
The same place Mike White Squads always are!!!!!!
on the bubble
on the bubble
Posted on 10/30/24 at 4:24 pm to bigDgator
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This is accurate. This is not what you wrote
It is what I wrote, though kind of indirectly
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BTW, it is kind of creepy how much you research UF.
Classic BigD, lashing out
Posted on 10/30/24 at 4:37 pm to diddlydawg7
Some people would take that as a compliment. I meant that in the best possible stalker way.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:06 pm to diddlydawg7
White gets credit for getting Allen to recommit but he was originally recruited by Donovan. That's a fact. 
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