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re: UGA IS on paper the best job in America except for the Atlanta factor. Built in gang type

Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:34 pm to
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I agree with what OP is saying about not wanting kids that may have character issues but I don’t agree with stereotyping kids from Atlanta into all being bad kids. My answer to OP concerns about Georgia having problems with kids from Atlanta is maybe they should do a better job of vetting players before they sign them.
I don't think he meant to insinuate that all kids from Atlanta were thugs, only that "big city" kids are more likely to emulate the culture because it's more prevalent in the metro areas (they're usually more worldly). I think you're right about coaches doing a better job at vetting recruits, and it shouldn't be that hard to do.
Posted by Icoachfb
Greenville SC
Member since Jan 2019
1796 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:54 pm to
Yes inner city kids do tend to have more problems. No argument.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86474 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 1:57 pm to
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I don't think he meant to insinuate that all kids from Atlanta were thugs, only that "big city" kids are more likely to emulate the culture because it's more prevalent in the metro areas


that's common sense though that doesn't really even need to be spoken. Furthermore it has zero to do with UGA or Atlanta specifically. It's not like the football hotbeds of the Miami and LA metros don't have troublemakers that go to big schools either. And on the flip side, a small town kid from a 1 stop light town is probably gonna go hog wild when he gets to college and experiences adult life. It simply comes down to upbringing, regardless of how big your home town is.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

don't think he meant to insinuate that all kids from Atlanta were thugs, only that "big city" kids are more likely to emulate the culture because it's more prevalent in the metro areas (they're usually more worldly)


His entire premise is idiotic."Gang Culture" or whatever you want to call it is everywhere.The vast majority of kids recruited in Atlanta arent from the "inner city" Most are from Gwinnett,Dekalb.Cobb,N Fulton and Fayette and many from
middle class areas and schools

Jimdog gave us absolutely no evidence to back up his claims other than his opinion

He also said the same kids from Miami in an earlier post that I completely refuted
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:11 pm to
nmsg
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 10:32 pm
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:43 pm to
20-0. In favor of the states touching the schools that touch the greatest opportunity in CFB. Including little Clemson, the former Florida State Teachers college, Auburn and Alabama in a state with less than half the pop. of Gerogia. Tennessee. Why RD? WHY? I don't believe in haints. The Georgia fans are wild and crazy! The money flows like water down the 'Hooch. My buddy was the offensive cord there under Richt and told me Georgia (along with LSU at the time when Saban was there) had the best support system in the SEC. Claimed they had anything they needed. So why?
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:51 pm to
Good that you mentioned the Miami and L.A. metro's. If you hadn't noticed USC and UCLA have went to hell in a hand basket. And Miami as well.. And look at the Gators. I mentioned UF earlier. Things have changed.

I'll say this, if Kirby and that dynamite staff can't produce a natty this year or next with that close to NFL roster and the admin and gov and state police all the way down to the ticket takers doing whatever he asks then damn. And even if he does that would be 20-1.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 10:34 pm
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30250 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:07 pm to
This is a typical dumb shite sec rant thread.
Posted by teamjackson
Headspace, LLC
Member since Nov 2012
4606 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:31 pm to
jimdog IS on paper the worst poster in America except for the WilliamTaylor factor. Built in gang type
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:38 pm to
Why thank you sir. There is a lot of competition here and I do my best to stand out. It means a lot to be recognized by one of my peers.
Posted by Icoachfb
Greenville SC
Member since Jan 2019
1796 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:54 pm to
Man you got some issues.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 11:15 am to
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Why RD? WHY?


Funny you said the EXACT same thing about kids from Miami in an earlier post then I guess you realized your idiocy because Miami won 5 NC's with a "gang culture"

quote:

My buddy was the offensive cord there under Richt and told me Georgia (along with LSU at the time when Saban was there) had the best support system in the SEC. Claimed they had anything they needed. So why?


If your "buddy" said that hes either lying or never coached at UGA

Here ya go:

We were the last of the big 6 to hire support staff and analyst and at the MOST CMR had 12 and that was only towards the end of his career

We took an idiotic vow not to "oversign" kids just to show some type of moral superiority over Bama and other SEC schools.So we end up with 67 scholarship players vs Bama's 85 in the SECCG in 2012

We were one of the LAST SEC school to get an IPF facility.Let that sink in.

In short,we had absolutely no answer or the support to combat what Saban was doing at Bama or Meyer was doing at UF.Our recruiting fell off drastically from 2010-2013

We were pee testing after guys got back from spring break and had one of tightest drug testing and disciplinary policies in the SEC.Many of our guys thrived when they went to other SEC schools...funny how that works.

CMR was never the coach he was in the 1st half of his career and his stint at Miami proved it.

Did you really bring up Goff and Donnan? Goff was a 3rd choice and got the job because of his South Georgia buddy on the "selection committee" He had absolutely no business being a P5 coach and was never even a coordinator before he got hired.

Donnan wasnt bad but was FAR from an elite coach.UT,UF,AU and GT all had winning records vs him and he was also a 2nd choice as an hire.


Once again,you offered not one shred of evidence to back up your claim about "Atlanta kids" and "gang culture" as the reason for UGA not winning a NC since 80. Show me kids that were kicked out or disciplined over CMR 15 years and then percentage from Atlanta vs percentage of kids signed.Go back to a previous post where I pointed out specifically where Bama kids came from who were kicked out of the program under Saban.Hint:few if any were from Atlanta or Miami...most were from rural Alabama.

This is the 1st time we've ever had "everything" in place to be competitive along with an administration thats finally on board
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 11:40 am
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 11:44 am to
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Yes inner city kids do tend to have more problems. No argument.



No they don't. Poor rural kids have just as many problems as poor city kids. Just as many drugs, young single mothers, and dysfunctional families out in the styks.

For example. Macon and Valdosta have less murders but as many or more rapes, burglaries, thefts, and robberies than Atlanta. Also of the 75 Ga counties reporting drug overdose deaths 42 reported more per capita than Fulton (right in the heart of the city).

Save your BS stereotyping. There's nothing wrong with Atlanta kids. Sadly, other coaches don't share your view. Atlanta metro is one of a handful of areas with extremely rich and concentrated football talent, and UGA would love to recruit the area without any comp.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19444 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 11:47 am to
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On paper

quote:

Best job in America


What paper are you looking at?
Posted by Icoachfb
Greenville SC
Member since Jan 2019
1796 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 11:55 am to
I can only speak from my experience. The years I worked in small towns yes we had a high teen pregnancy rate and yes those kids were doing just as much drugs. The years I’ve worked in bigger cities it was a little harder to reach those kids because there were more influential people around them.

No I don’t think there is anything wrong with Atlanta kids as I said in an earlier post.

Should have made myself more clear.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Smart's Bama metro recruits it is REALITY!


bullshite...its not based on any type reality or research.This was actual RESEARCH done on players kicked out of Bama and where
they came from.

quote:

What players were you referring to exactly? I did a little research going back to 2012 and found a total of 13 players arrested.The most serious were 4 players arrested for robbery and credit card fraud in '12/'13. Three of those arrested were from Alabama and one from Florida (Pensacola). Two other players were arrested for drugs and weapons in '14.Both were from Louisiana. In '15 one was arrested for 3rd degree domestic violence.The player was also from Alabama. The rest were arrested for DUI,Public Intoxication and Obstruction. Of those arrested for those offenses two were from Metro Atl (Geno Smith DUI in '15) and Kenyon Drake for Obstruction in '14. BTW Geno Smith is now an analyst on Bamas staff. So of the 13 arrest since '12 a grand total of 2 were from Metro Atl and one is now on Sabans staff and the other in the NFL. Once again Jim,pulling shite out yer arse and I'm still trying to find the "astounding number"of kids from Metro Atl. This post was edited on 4/3 at 6:34 pm
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 1:09 pm
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