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re: UF QB Treon Harris investigated for sexual assault, UF Statement in OP
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:14 pm to joshnorris14
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:14 pm to joshnorris14
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Regarding on & off relationship w this woman: could totally see this her being jealous that Treon is w someone else after big win. #Gators
Cleat defenders should wait until some evidence comes in before they start clearing their players. As should the SJWs before convicting them.
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:14 pm to the808bass
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I get this is a football forum, but I thought we were humans.
I thought innocent until proven guilty, fascist.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:15 pm to joshnorris14
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If there was evidence of rape he would be charged and arrested, especially at UF right now.
That's simply unknowable given that we know nothing other than a few random facts.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:15 pm to Prof
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If he's innocent he can be reinstated or go play somewhere else but right now the university is rightfully protecting the person who has been victimized.
Eh, you can't just move on from something so stigmatizing. There isn't really a way around it absent protecting both the identity of the accuser and accused prior to proceedings, but we all know it can be extremely damaging.
The best solution is probably severe punishment for false accusations, but given the civil climate, I'm not sure that will dissuade all fraudulent claims.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:15 pm to the808bass
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Have the police said this exact thing?
No and I never said they did. Try to keep up.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:15 pm to ocelot4ark
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I thought innocent until proven guilty, fascist.
He is innocent. He doesn't have an unlimited right to play football at a university. I'm sure that "nuance" escapes you.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:16 pm to Loathor
quote:He could state his opinion on sexual assault AND state the investigation is ongoing. Not mutually exclusive.
Wouldn't saying nothing have served the same purpose as two or three lines of BS? Would that make you feel better about your daughter's safety on campus?
And a public statement doesn't make anyone feel more or less safe. But he's a university president responsible for thousands of students. His job is to determine the truth of the situation, whatever it may be. He doesn't even discuss that. I believe that's a disservice to the school.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:16 pm to ocelot4ark
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No and I never said they did. Try to keep up.
I'm kept up. Thanks for your concern.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:17 pm to joshnorris14
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If there was evidence of rape he would be charged and arrested, especially at UF right now.
Earlier in this thread it showed Gainesville PD's forensic unit at the complex today. As Cheese pointed out to you earlier, it seems it wasn't reported until today (given the 10/6/14 report date on the report tweet). They're still investigating and given what happened in Tallahassee are probably not going to act on anything until they've covered their bases.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:17 pm to the808bass
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SJWs
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:18 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Earlier in this thread it showed Gainesville PD's forensic unit at the complex today. As Cheese pointed out to you earlier, it seems it wasn't reported until today (given the 10/6/14 report date on the report tweet). They're still investigating and given what happened in Tallahassee are probably not going to act on anything until they've covered their bases.
It was reported yesterday but didn't go through the system until today.
And I was the person who posted the picture of the Foensics Unit
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:18 pm to the808bass
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And oftentimes, there's no consequences for rapists. What's your point?
100% of the time if there is evidence of a rape, police will prosecute. I'll believe that until someone can link me to a case where a DA refused to prosecute a rapist where there was abundant evidence.
Prosecuting rapists is awesome. We do that. It's the law.
The POINT is that DA's very seldomly prosecute false rape accusers. Feminists and social justice warriors have successfully convinced them that doing so would cause REAL victims of rape to stop coming forward.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:19 pm to joshnorris14
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And I was the person who posted the picture of the Foensics Unit
Who is still at the Springs complex this morning gathering/looking for evidence. Which makes total sense as to why a charge didn't drop as soon as it cleared the system.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:20 pm to the808bass
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You mean 2? Super close to double figures.
In binary it is
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:20 pm to ocelot4ark
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Feminists and social justice warriors have successfully convinced them that doing so would cause REAL victims of rape to stop coming forward.
Given how quick someone like you is to totally write off the potential of an actual rape because he's a QB for a major university, I can see why a rape victim might not want to come forward.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:22 pm to the808bass
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He is innocent. He doesn't have an unlimited right to play football at a university. I'm sure that "nuance" escapes you.
I'm fine with them suspending him during the investigation. I think it's fricking shitty, because somewhere along the way someone's life is going to get dragged through the mud. Their pro prospects will be worse. They'll undoubtedly suffer in school. Etc, etc. Just don't take away their scholarship. I don't know what FL's planning on doing, but I would hope they'll discount he-said/she-said and stick to the evidence. If evidence proves he raped her, send his arse to prison. But if the evidence proves he did nothing but have sex, it seems a failure to have already allowed the media to drag his name through the mud (be on the lookout for those front page stories when rapes are proven to be false...yeah, you won't find them).
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:23 pm to ocelot4ark
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it seems a failure to have already allowed the media to drag his name through the mud
UF can control the media?
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:24 pm to the808bass
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And oftentimes, there's no consequences for rapists. What's your point?
Convicted rapists are punished 100% of the time. Falsely accused men are sometimes punished. False accusers are rarely punished. I don't call that a level playing field.
And yeah, the "she was drunk so you're automatically a rapist" law is sickening. Can't see any possible problems with petty vengeance there. Not at all. "Sorry I forgot to tell you I had drinks at the restaurant before we met and hooked up. Have fun in jail."
This is sjw women trying to give women a social and legal advantage over men, one they can easily exert. They don't want equality. They want matriarchy.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:25 pm to bgator85
quote:Yeah, I understand that. And maybe out of fear of redundancy he omitted something like that. UF has a good PR team so I expected a little more, especially Machen's statement. He's the 'face' of UF and it's pretty clear I'm not a fan of his
I agree to an extent, however it is an official UF statement that comes from his desk. In the statement it talks about it being an ongoing investigation, maybe in his quote he could have said more, but in the context of the rest of the statement I am fine with what he said.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:25 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Given how quick someone like you is to totally write off the potential of an actual rape because he's a QB for a major university, I can see why a rape victim might not want to come forward.
You, obviously, haven't read a single fricking word I've typed.
I'm all for evidence. I'm all for due process. I'm NOT all for just believing someone's word when FALSE RAPE ACCUSATIONS HAPPEN.
Do some women sometimes falsely report rape? True or False?
"Given how quick someone like you is to totally write off the potential of a false rape accusation because he's a man, I can see why women have absolutely no fear of criminal repercussions for filing false statements."
Not once have I accused her of lying. Not once. Not once have I said he DIDN'T rape her.
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